Thread: Che T-Shirts

Results 1 to 20 of 54

  1. #1
    Join Date Jul 2004
    Location England
    Posts 120
    Rep Power 14

    Default

    Right, just had to do this thread to try and explain the whole thing i found alot of people have here with people wearing Che T's.

    Just because a person is wearing a T-shirt with his face on doesnt mean they know anything about him, hell they probally dont even know his name let alone what he has done. I find that when people see someone half famous with a Che T-shirt on, they jump to the conclusion he/she is a outright supporter of Che and what he had done thoughout his life.

    The simple fact it, Che's face is now just a part of a fasion trend unfortunatly.

    maybe i could be wrong, what you people think
    DRS- Saddam Was Pure Evil, That We All Know, But He Captured By A More Corrupt Man Who Just Wanted All His Dough
  2. #2
    Join Date Nov 2003
    Posts 1,189
    Organisation
    underground resistance
    Rep Power 25

    Default

    No it doesn't mean that they know anything about him but it doesn't mean that they are completely ignorant on Che and Communism either. If I see someone with a Che shirt that I'm talking to I'll ask them if they know who Che is and if they are ignorant and don't know anything about him then I will know that they're only wearing it for the fashion. Also i'd ask them where they got it, did they make it themsleves, did they buy it from a street vendoI woulr place etc. or did they get it at HOT TOPIC or something like that. When che's face is used by capitalists to make trendy shirt is what I think is retarted

    its mostly just fashion
  3. #3
    Casanova
    Guest

    Default

    When I first bought my first che T-shirt at HotTopic I did'nt know anything about him. (the clerk thought it was a funny shirt) but know I understand who he is and what he is and everything else, maybe the shirts are good so that kids can learn more about him.
  4. #4
    Join Date Nov 2003
    Location Asteroid B612
    Posts 979
    Rep Power 15

    Default

    This is the case oftentimes. Here, a lot of people wear Che shirts like it's a fashion statement. And most of them, I am sure don't know who Che really is.
    There is nothing to fear, nothing to doubt...

    I remember you Che, thus I make you immortal

    http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Giuditta Wunderkind
  5. #5
    Join Date May 2004
    Location "Great" Britain
    Posts 2,103
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    OK I don't like non-leftists wearing the shirt, but lets think about it - people who wear che t-shirts might just find out who he was. Then they might start to find out that they agree with him - its a good way for people to join us. I found this site because I was looking for 'cool stuff on che,' so the myth worked for me. Sure, I had my views in place before I came here, but the principle is there.
    Metal up your ass
  6. #6
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Location UK
    Posts 2,631
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    Meh, I got here because someone said I looked like the bastard

    I don't really see the point in fashion at all. If I saw a che shirt for sale in Oxfam, sure - until that day I won't be wearing one, and I'll scoff at those who do just as I do at the gucci crew.
    Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
    Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
  7. #7
    Join Date Feb 2002
    Location Britain
    Posts 2,486
    Rep Power 19

    Default

    meh, everyone follows some form of a fashion.
    Lets not get too stuck up
    Captain Blackadder: You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war two great super-armies developed. Us, the Russians and the French on one side, Germany and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea being that each army would act as the other's deterrent. That way, there could never be a war.
    Private Baldrick: Except, this is sort of a war, isn't it?
    Captain Blackadder: That's right. There was one tiny flaw in the plan.
    Lieutenant George: O, what was that?
    Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks.
  8. #8
    Hot-1
    Guest

    Default

    I acturally own a Che t-shirt and bracelet I got from Ecurador. A lot of kids in Toronto wear his t-shirt since Jay-z started wearing it and I also have a friend on Msn who love Che because he spanish but doesn't know anying about his politics.
  9. #9
    Wubwubwubabubble Supporter
    Committed User
    Join Date Sep 2002
    Location Sherwood forest
    Posts 2,829
    Rep Power 31

    Default

    I have a Che shirt. But I haven't worn it in a long time.

    The one time I got the guts to ask someone who was wearing such a shirt who the guy was, guess what they said?

    "It&#39;s Bob Marley." <_< :angry:
    [formerly Cthenthar]

    Revolutionaries don't spend all day on a messageboard. Action is realisation of the polemic.


    "When the lie returns to the mouth of the powerful, our voice of fire will speak again." - quote EZLN

    “Development develops inequality.” ― Eduardo Galeano, Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent
  10. #10
    sanne
    Guest

    Default

    i donīt like any fashion. that destroys the own charakter of someone. if evryone would wear exactly the things heīd like best, without knowing anything about fashion, you would know much more of his charakter. since che t-shirts are fashion, i donīt wear mine very often anymore - i donīt like beeing a part of the fashion and i donīt like people thinking i donīt know che (like many others wearing such shirts), so i prefer my bag with the che patch
  11. #11
    Wubwubwubabubble Supporter
    Committed User
    Join Date Sep 2002
    Location Sherwood forest
    Posts 2,829
    Rep Power 31

    Default

    I must admit, I am in fundamentally the same position. I feel Che is being misrepresented by this fashion, and thus, if I where my Che shirt, I will be seen as this &#39;fashion&#39;.

    How unfortunate. :angry:

    What you really need is a Che shirt that says more though. The picture alone won&#39;t do. Some fashion shirts have stuff like "Who the hell is this guy?" <_<

    I think something like "Revolutrionary" (though I suppose this can be turned into fashion too), or even better, "Hasta la victoria siempre" or ... something revolutionary like. Be creative.
    [formerly Cthenthar]

    Revolutionaries don't spend all day on a messageboard. Action is realisation of the polemic.


    "When the lie returns to the mouth of the powerful, our voice of fire will speak again." - quote EZLN

    “Development develops inequality.” ― Eduardo Galeano, Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent
  12. #12
    Join Date Jun 2004
    Posts 1,042
    Rep Power 18

    Default

    I seem to remember a survey done in the US where c. 30% thought it was George Harrison. No respect. Freakin&#39; gringos.

    I own a che t-shirt which was foisted upon me in bolivia (I&#39;ve never had fashion sense anyway, so eh&#33, and another that my aunt gave to me two days ago.
    I used to be fairly opposed to the commodification of Che&#39;s image. Now, however, I have a different oultook: if a person is wearing such a shirt, it is the perfect excuse to start talking to the about socialism. And selling shirts with his image is a curious experience- most people who buy the shirt are not entirely up on who Che was, but, once again, the image as icon presents a chance to talk to people.
    Che was opposed to being treated as a star, however it has taken place despite him. The only qualification I would add to the wearing or sale of Che *material* is that it ought to be directly connected to a revolutionary organisation or movement. Using it for purely capitalistic purposes is the worst kind of betrayal of the revolutionary process.
    "Condenarme, no importa. La historia me absolvera." - Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz

    Australia's leading leftwing newspaper - http://www.greenleft.org.au
    Uniting the left - for the Millions, not the Millionaires - http://www.socialist-alliance.org/
    Revolutionary Socialist Youth Organisation - http://resistance.org.au
    LINKS - International Journal of Socialist Renewal - http://www.links.org.au
  13. #13
    wet blanket
    Guest

    Default

    Who the fuck is Che?

    ...and what the hell is the internet?
  14. #14
    Join Date Apr 2003
    Location New Cross, London England
    Posts 2,248
    Rep Power 18

    Default

    alternative fashion is still fashion, just because kate moss isn&#39;t wearing it doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s not "fashion"

    I wear my Che shirts all the time, people can do whatever and wear whatever I don&#39;t care.
    <span style=\'color:black\'>Culture sucks down words
    Itemise loathing and feed yourself smiles
    Organise your safe tribal war
    Hurt maim kill and enslave the ghetto</span>

    <span style=\'color:red\'>Life lies a slow suicide
    Orthodox dreams and symbolic myths
    From feudal serf to spender
    This wonderful world of purchase power</span>
  15. #15
    sanne
    Guest

    Default

    woah. i was really really very shocked when i saw some addvertisment (donīt know for what - not important) iīll explain to you what was to see there: a man (he looked nearly exactly like che) sitting on a confortable couch (smoking a cigar of course) reading a newspaper where you could read the headline "evry revolution ends on the couch" (free translated from german) and the topic of the add was: "luxuriance is a human right". che never would have agreed with this add
  16. #16
    Wubwubwubabubble Supporter
    Committed User
    Join Date Sep 2002
    Location Sherwood forest
    Posts 2,829
    Rep Power 31

    Default

    I&#39;ve also seen places that sell bongs have banners with a drugged out Che saying "Fuck the revolution..."

    <_<
    [formerly Cthenthar]

    Revolutionaries don't spend all day on a messageboard. Action is realisation of the polemic.


    "When the lie returns to the mouth of the powerful, our voice of fire will speak again." - quote EZLN

    “Development develops inequality.” ― Eduardo Galeano, Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent
  17. #17
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Posts 25
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    Man, I love it when people who don&#39;t know Che wear Che shirts around me. It just gives me an excuse to go into a massive rant about their fucking ignorance. And on the rare occasion I meet someone who actually KNOWS who che is, it&#39;s fun.
  18. #18
    sanne
    Guest

    Default

    yeah, thatīs right, i like it to blaspheme about those people ;-)
  19. #19
    FlyTheFlag
    Guest

    Default

    Originally posted by Casanova@Sep 1 2004, 05:12 AM
    When I first bought my first che T-shirt at HotTopic I did&#39;nt know anything about him. (the clerk thought it was a funny shirt) but know I understand who he is and what he is and everything else, maybe the shirts are good so that kids can learn more about him.
    Exactly my thoughts. =)
  20. #20
    sanne
    Guest

    Default

    uäärgh&#33; the school started again and the people in my class ar all so ignorant... =|

Similar Threads

  1. T-Shirts
    By Elect Marx in forum Websites
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 28th March 2006, 21:10
  2. Shirts
    By Fiend15 in forum Ernesto "Che" Guevara
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 8th October 2005, 05:35
  3. CHE Shirts
    By Lacrimi de Chiciură in forum Ernesto "Che" Guevara
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 21st August 2004, 20:35

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Tags for this Thread