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More than half the world is behind the first world in regards to technological adancement and accessability.
Sadly the first introduction to modern technology to most is our terrible weaponry.
So what is it that you wish they would have access to first?
"One who is commited to the poor must run the same fate as the poor and in El Salvador we know what the fate of the poor signifies; To dissapear, to be tortured, to be captive-and to be found Dead." Father Oscar Romero Socialist Martyr
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An idiot can ask so many questions it will take years to reply. So if I don't reply to your posts it's probably why
Yah I thought Anti-biotics, but the internet is pretty great.
And I don't know if you've heard about this program but they've been providing lights to the rural third world, even that has had a profound effect.
"One who is commited to the poor must run the same fate as the poor and in El Salvador we know what the fate of the poor signifies; To dissapear, to be tortured, to be captive-and to be found Dead." Father Oscar Romero Socialist Martyr
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If I was a pre-columbian American indian I would tell you to stick your antibiotics and your internets up your ass.
"The dogs in Pavlov's laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it..."--John Zerzan
Our greatest technological discovery? I would have to say the telescope. Without it, we'd still be mired in creationist theory. Given that they've just found a planet that lies in close enough proximity to it's star and is not gaseous, and hence could well support life...
Brilliant
Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
Probably the Dyson vacuum cleaner.
"all the people in my books i read are men who fuck each other do drugs and kill people fuck the dead body and eat it. but dissmembering a body to make another is just as cool. "- Captain anarchy
I ate capt. Anarchy, as he stole my thunder! No longer will you hear some bizarre rambling coming from the self assigned Captain of utter non-sense
- T_SP......because he's worth it.
Referring to the Commie Club!...
This very real limitation of the productive forces, both static and dynamic, demands at any given time the most suitable environment for it's advancement. - Gent, head of the RA...aka the People's Front of Judea
ONTO STREET - The immortal HUQIAO
The modern 'multi-network', comprising of electricity, running water/sewage treatnent, phone/internet, and a decent public transport system.
These can be provided to many people at once, although initial tooling-up costs are likely to be high.
So you'd rather let your sons and daughters die of the diseases that columbus and his european buddies will inevitably bring along? sweet
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Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the boot-maker - Mikhail Bakunin
Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains - Karl Marx
Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value - R. Buckminster Fuller
The important thing is not to be human but to be humane - Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
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I love being so far from my loved ones that I have to talk to them without being able to touch them. It's also cool that we've fucked everything up so bad that we need to treat our water and that there are so many of us in so little space that we have to actually think about what to do with our shit. Another cool thing is being holed up in our houses all day with fake lighting so that we don't have to see the sun. Fuck the sun. It's also really rad to be sitting on a subway travelling from one artificially lit cave to another with a hundred other people you don't talk to feeling the heavy loneliness of a complete lack of community crushing in on you as some dirt covered child tries to sell you keychains so he can eat.
Try not to look him in the face or it'll be harder to ignore that you're dead.
"The dogs in Pavlov's laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it..."--John Zerzan
i will go the other way around
what could/have / can learn from them
things we forgot?
our materialism world is decaying and it is pitty to think they need something from " us" <_<
i think they need kalasnikovh34r:
That's what I meant.Originally posted by gaf@Aug 27 2004, 09:50 PM
i will go the other way around
what could/have / can learn from them
things we forgot?
our materialism world is decaying and it is pitty to think they need something from " us" <_<
i think they need kalasnikov
"The dogs in Pavlov's laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it..."--John Zerzan
Unless you have arms that are miles long I think you would use the public transport system. Duuuuh.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to drink from a river in which I've just washed my dirty clothes or had a bath in. But whatever floats your boat.
I don't suppose you like finding turds on the beach either?
Only in the ant/arctic circle does the sun shine 24/7. I suppose pitch-black streets would make the women feel really safe eh?
Don't you realise it is capitalism that is the alienating factor in modern society and not technological developments? Modern technology has the capability to make everyone on this still green and pleasant sphere happy and have their material needs acommodated. The reason it doesn't happen is because of capitalism, which places the dollar above the human.
Short of direct physical alteration through genetics or cyborging, technology will not change who you are. You will feel love, hate, fear, anger and joy, you will still listen to music, read literature, and appreciate art.
gaf
Maybe things like famine, being eaten alive by wild animals, being able to get away with murder due to there being no forensics, having your children die of curable diseases, your teeth rotting away due to no dental care, frostbite, floods, malaria from the floodwaters, you get my meaning?
I see you neo-primitivists have a bright future in store for us
The Human Progress Group
Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the boot-maker - Mikhail Bakunin
Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains - Karl Marx
Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value - R. Buckminster Fuller
The important thing is not to be human but to be humane - Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Check out my speculative fiction project: NOVA MUNDI
sure like neo colonialism.Originally posted by NoXion@Aug 29 2004, 11:56 AM
Maybe things like famine, being eaten alive by wild animals, being able to get away with murder due to there being no forensics, having your children die of curable diseases, your teeth rotting away due to no dental care, frostbite, floods, malaria from the floodwaters, you get my meaning?
I see you neo-primitivists have a bright future in store for us
and i work in the health sector!without taboes:P
do you mean animals can get away without beeing aware of their crimes?
i think the best thing about our modern society is the basic sanitation - clean water, food, and dealing with sewage.
the thing we can best learn from LEDCs is the sense of community that many have, and communism should help to encourage this.
bring on the revolution
one, love, one, music, one, people, one, movement, one, heart, one, spark.
'One' by Immortal Technique
The World is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing
Albert Einstein
Bush is a 'political imbecile' and a tyrant who puts Hitler to shame.
extracts from a press release by the North Korean Foreign Ministry
Let's save the world, one by one. We'll make them believe, conform if they must. Don't question the thought, it's always been told. We'll make them believe, let's save the world.
'Save the World' by RUFiO
Access to infomation is one of the most important things. So I would say give them radio, and TV and Internet. But we need something to power them, solar power and wind power (and small scale hydro). These are what we should be giving to people.
sense of community? dont be so sure, i mean half the african countries have government troops and rebels who rather than working for a greater good spend their entire lives knocking the shit out of each other and make life worse for the innocents.
<span style=\'color:red\'> Its like a car wash, but without the car, or the wash </span>
Governments set up by The West. Yet another one of our shining achievments.
"The dogs in Pavlov's laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it..."--John Zerzan
yeah and you are cocacola
what a shining set up :P
Have you ever read anything by anybody believable about indeginous cultures and pre-colonial living? Try it. Then you can actually talk about these things from an intelligent, informed perspective, instead of just constantly spouting, using trite Victorian rhetoric, the blindly fascisticimperialist party line that for so long has justified the system you claim to hate.Originally posted by NoXion@Aug 29 2004, 11:56 AM
I see you neo-primitivists have a bright future in store for us
"The dogs in Pavlov's laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it..."--John Zerzan
Victorians believed that brown water was 'healthy' With your advocation of the abolition of advanced technology and the water treatment that comes with it, I'd say your view is more 'Victorian' than mine.
The Human Progress Group
Does it follow that I reject all authority? Perish the thought. In the matter of boots, I defer to the authority of the boot-maker - Mikhail Bakunin
Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains - Karl Marx
Pollution is nothing but the resources we are not harvesting. We allow them to disperse because we've been ignorant of their value - R. Buckminster Fuller
The important thing is not to be human but to be humane - Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Check out my speculative fiction project: NOVA MUNDI
