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I spent Tuesday and Wednsday floating on air pretty much...me and a friend smoked some low-grade hydro and just sat on his couch Tuesday and drove around town doing shit on Wednesday. On Wednesday night I took advantage of an incredible connection and picked up a good quantity of decent hydro for 50 bucks an ounce.
Sure, it was Mexican brick weed but the buds were the size of somebody's ear, the smell was sweet and almost overpowering, red hairs abounded, seeds were sparse, and there were even some crystals scattered about.
We smoked a few bowls of that...before the second was finished I could feel myself levitating. This wasn't your usual "good weed" high--nobody was going to have an intellectual discussion on this stuff. This was "grab you by the balls and take you for a ride" high. And that was before we hit the gravity bong! Soon I could barely feel my body at all.
So, I was satisfied...this was good stuff for a killer price. I went home and tried to get back into reality a bit. After a while, however, my parents stepped out for a walk and I decided I couldn't wait any longer.
Without hesitating, I loaded a fat bowl and puffed away. I felt a bit high but nothing spectacular...not even worthy of a schwag high. Before the night was over, I smoked another...to no significant effect.
I woke up on Friday feeling groggy and unrested...I had nothing to do and I was the only one in the house so I loaded up three bowls between eleven and one...each bowl a reaction to the ineffectiveness of the previous one. I tried using my different, "lucky" pipe. I tried taking *huge* hits. I tried bathing myself in goat blood and dancing around a burning effigy of Jesus...nothing worked!
Thing was...I was "high" I just didn't feel that great. In fact, my limbs had that tingly, orgasmic feeling when I went to bed (12 hours later!and I still don't feel sober at one on Saturday...a full 24 hours later!
While I was still trying to toke effectively, I called the buddy I was staying with and asked him if he had smoked the bud I left him the morning before. He hadn't but soon called me back saying that he was almost finished with the first bowl and was floating around...and was too toasted to move!
What the hell is wrong with me? Do I just need to take a break? Is it in my head?
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drugs and fx of then goes around with how you feel .just let it flow!
or just don't use it
know yourself
Well, it sounds like you're smoking ALOT of crappy weed, I think that's your problem. I'll explain.
First off, where do you live ? 50 dollars an ounce ? And how is it crappy Mexican brick weed, yet hydro ? I don't know many Mexican farmers who have $2000+ hydro systems.
Seeds ? That sounds like commerical, outdoor Mexican schwag. No offense, I assume you live in the South. My cousin gets that same kind of stuff in Georgia, it gets you high, but for the most part it's shit. You have to smoke alot to get high. I assume you smoke this stuff alot, which is where your problem lies. Every pot smoker gets a THC build up, usually it's from simply smoking too much, but it can also be caused by smoking the same stuff too often. I find that no matter how good the herb is, after smoking it for awhile it's going to get you less high. With me, it takes awhile, usually around a month of smoking the same shit, however, what I smoke up here is probably alot different. You said you were getting it for $50 an ounce, and it sounds like you smoked around an eigth in a day, so maybe the resistance builds up alot quicker. Plus, if you're getting Mexi brick weed, you probably smoke the same stuff quite a bit of the time with or without realizing it. I usually pay between $100-$140 for a half ounce. That half lasts me about a month if I try to conserve. The thing is, when you would smoke 2 huge bowls (probably almost a gram?) to get kind of high, I smoke .2 of a gram in my vaporizer and am completely stoned. Smoking low grade weed is so much worse for your body because you have to smoke so much more to get high (that's why it's so ridiculous to claim that the high THC content of today is worse for you than the stuff in the 70's because it's more potent, it's far more healthy). When you smoke that much in a day your body either builds up a resistance to the THC or, more likely, it resists the other components in the same old weed that you always smoke.
My suggestion ? Grow your own (growing is easy and fun) or find a better hook up. Smoking that much, and of that low quality of herb can only be bad for you. Try to get different weed as often as possible. The most obivous, effective and postive solution is simply cut back on how much you smoke. I find myself having to do that alot.
Urban Rubble pretty much hit it on the head, but I also have a different suggestion. Try switching to hash for a while if you can get it.
That should give your body a good cleanup and throw a curve-ball at your tolerance level. Hash will get you fucked.
You can't get high?
That should only be a problem if you're broke.
There are always times for a new binge, just upgrade.
Like I said, seeds were sparse...most of the buds had no seeds and the ones that did...well, the seeds had crystals! I live in Texas and I know crappy Mexican schwag. Hell, I have some right now and it sucks. The stuff I bought is not schwag and it is not outdoor! I've seen the pictures and outdoor doesn't get the size and dimensions in the buds that this stuff does. If the buds hadn't been bricked up, they would be the size of assorted small pinecones. Some are over 4 inches long. Also, I said I didn't have to smoke alot to get high previously. The night I got it I was floating around after the 5 of us had done 2 bowls. My buddy smoked a bowl himself and couldn't move!
Yes, 50 bucks an ounce...my connection gets it for 40 bucks from a guy known only as "the president" who has 4 tricked out cars in front of his house. Presumably, Mr. President gets the stuff directly from Mexico so I'm actually only the 3rd person to buy it...hence the low price. I didn't say it was "crappy brick weed" (I don't think) I only said it was "brick weed". You can brick up anything and it is very common for Mexican...in fact, I've never heard of anything coming out of Mexico without being bricked. I've seen a pound brick of schwag and it was something one would tote in a duffle bag...the stuff I got comes in pounds you could put in your pocket...not because it is heavier but because there is no wasted space since the buds are huge and there are almost no stems. My connection knows weed and if he were trying to rip me off, he'd make more than 10 bucks on the deal! I think it is certainly ignorant (no offense) to say that no Mexican farmers would have hydro systems. Drug growers are businesspeople...whether they are in the US, Canada, or Mexico. We aren't talking about poor Colombian coca growers. These folks rake in the dough and they are rich, even by US standards. But, like I said, the Mexican border is a bit tougher so people tend to pack the stuff in as much as possible to make every trip the best bang for the risk. All in all, I've never seen schwag that had red hairs, was sticky, and had a smell that could almost get one high. Don't even get me started on the taste...
That night we only loaded 4-5 bowls between 5 of us...everyone was toasted. I had spent the last day and much of the week before smoking large quantities of more schwagy stuff, however.
I'll sum it up here: everyone who has smoked this stuff was toasted after a couple hits, including me. I know it is high quality stuff that one would normally pay over $200 an ounce for. The problem is, I haven't been able to get high again.
My plan now is to take a week off and then give it another shot.
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Actually, I shouldn't be so defensive. It may, in fact, be outdoor. It isn't, however, schwag.
Here's some pictures of some similar-looking buds to give you an idea of what I'm talking about--just mentally knock off most of the crystals the pictured buds are coated in!
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I must admit in my years of smoking I've never come across this phenomenon - we've all smoked shit weed that didn't get you 'high' and just left that heavy feeling in your limbs; that annoying headache that just won't go away. But decent weed not getting you stoned?
I'm intruiged....
I'd suggest you take a break.... perhaps a week of detox (drink cranberry juice! vodka optional) and loads of water, and good tea if you can get your hands on it where you are. If you've got a significant amount of this stuff left, then cook it (my personal suggestion would be to throw an eighth into a pan with some oil, cook it until it's dead then fry an egg in it and/or make fried bread - if that doesn't get you stoned? Shit....). As CyM suggested start smoking hashish rather than bud after the flushout is over - you'll soon be craving the bud again.
On that note however, I feel I must point out the case of one of my freinds who has given up on pot: He's of a nervous disposition in the first instance (I've known him since I was 2 or 3 years old and if I hadn't I'd have thought he was crackers) and in the last few years has started to suffer from what can only be described as 'panic attacks'. Whilst his doctor assured him this was related to his smoking, given that he hasn't even so much as touched a joint in the last year yet the attacks continue leads me to believe it's more likely a psychological association, much like the 'addiction' to weed itself.
If nothing else, perhaps your desire to get stoned is in fact hindering your efforts?
Further Reading on effects and myths of THC
I've met this weed before
Take a break from smoking it, give yourself at least 48hrs cold turkey and setup a bowl then: I'm certain you'll get stoned. It's probably a simple matter of your body being incapable of breaking down the THC into the various metabolites.
Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
Yeah, about a week of detox was the plan...though I'm not sure I can wait a week, what with my buddy calling me while near-nirvana...not to mention the sack of decent bud in my drawer just sitting there.
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Thanks a ton...but can you tell me more about "this weed"? What is it? What makes it different?
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I don't know if this is what you want to hear, but the problem is almost certainly you and not the weed.
I'm sorry to say, I'm no 'weed guru' - I have only my own knowledge to work from but my stoner-sense is telling me that the weed's just too heavy - if you're waking up in the morning feeling somewhat stoned it's because you most probably are!
Try cooking some of that weed - if you feel sick after eating then it's almost certainly a case of saturation.
Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
That's exactly what I wanted to hear...if it were a problem with the weed I would have some very upset friends.
What makes it "too heavy" and what, if anything, can I do about it? I mean, is it just an issue of moderation and technique or is the weed just inferior due to the saturation?
I'll get a buddy to cook some up for me...I think I still have one of his brownies in a vaccum sealed bag in my room!
Once again, thanks!
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And another thing...do you think this stuff is probably soil-grown? It isn't like I think I got ripped off (50 bucks an ounce is killer for anything above schwag) but I may have to disappoint some friends.
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I wouldn't doubt that it's soil grown - but then there is nothing wrong with that in itself. Hydroponics main benefit tends to be yield rather than potency. Most of the weed in the UK is grown in this manner, as hydroponics (although becoming steadily more popular) are prohibitively expensive with little in the way of return on investment.
Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
Just in case you missed it, I posted twice...did you read the one before the post you responded to?
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I did miss it, yeah
The saturation is in yourself, not the weed itself - you've been smoking too much :P Just chill on it for now, I'm sure you'll be getting high on the same weed in no time. The particular chemical makeup of this strain seems to be preventing your body breaking it down, meaning that you are actually always stoned, but not necessarily high. You simply need to use this stuff in moderation.
I could easily be wrong though... without smoking it it's hard to tell.
The proof's in the pudding (hah!
Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Adiel: Cannot!
Lisa: Can to!
Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
O.K, well, it sounds like you've got a THC block up, or you're smoking too much of the same weed. You might not even know it, but it could be the same stuff you always smoke, perhaps it was grown by a different grower, different ferts, packaged and handled differently, I don't know. Take a break, find some different herb.
Anyway.
First off, if there were seeds, it was outdoor, no question. The reason Mexican weed has seeds is because they grow it in HUGE fields outside. Indoors, you are either going to be using clones taken from a female, or you're going to have a controlled environment where you can pluck all the males. In these huge Mexi commerical ops, they have acres of shit growing and can't pick out ALL the males, just some. What results is the males pollinate the females late into flowering and they stop putting energy into resin production and start making seeds.
Also, outdoor plants, and therefore buds, are much larger than indoor plants. Size has nothing to do with where and how it's grown.
Anything that is bricked will lose potency, at least a little bit. Smashing pot destroys resin glands. Now, I'm sure it's worth $50 easily, I'd buy it, so don't think I'm shit talking you or your weed.
The reason I know most Mexican farmers don't own expensive hydro systems is because I know the industry. Mexicans that grow to sell grow in large fields, outside, 99% of the time. Spending so much money on a hydro system to produce high quality herb is pointless if you're going to brick it up and send it across the border. It's easier, and more profitable to grow a huge field. They simply do not do it. I know a few people that live in Mexico and are pretty well connected with "the scene". One guy has never seen an indoor grow up down there, another guy has seen a couple, but all of it is for personal or to be sold for amzingly beefed up prices to people inside of Mexico. If it is Mexi hydro, it wouldn't be making it to Texas.
Again, don't think I wouldn't buy and smoke the shit, I would. But anything that was bricked and contains seeds would never get that price around here. I'm sure it's quality weed. Believe it or not, Mexican weed is usually amazing before it's bricked and sent over. When it gets here, while it has lost some of the quality, it's still usually not bad. So, I'm sure it does get you high, that's why I think the problem lies with you and not the product. When my plants are done I'll have to mail you of the shit we grow and see how you like it.
Like Dacuban said, if you're getting an ounce for $50, you should cook with it. That's a great way of getting high off of low quality herb. Next time you pick up some stuff that you don't really like, get about a half ounce, get a stick of butter, cook it on LOW heat for awhile. Then, get a cheescloth, strain out the nasty crap, and let the butter sit in the fridge. After awhile, scrape the top layer of butter off and cook some brownies, or just spread it on some toast. That will work, and it should help with the THC build up since it's getting to your system in an enitirely different way. If nothing else it gives the lungs a break.
I would disagree with them when they say to simply get some hash. If, like you say, the weed you had was fairly good, finding better shit isn't the problem, your resistance is. Smoking hash when you come back WILL get you fucked up, but it will only contribute to the blockage.
I wish I could get hash up here without having to make it myself !
I agree, anything that gets you high is well worth $50 an ounce. You most definately didn't get ripped off ! I wish I could get that deal.
Whether it's hydro or not should make no difference, it doesn't change a damn thing for the smoker. Actually, I think that hydro grown weed is actually worse than quality soil grown weed. The only benefit of hydro is for the grower, not the consumer. Hydro lacks taste vs. soil due to the fact that 90% of hydro growers use chemical ferts and not organic. The reason people grow hydro is because it's quicker, it saves space and it might increase your yield. They DO NOT do it for the guy they're selling it to. If your friends are disapointed to hear it's not "hydro", then they're most likely the same as my friends, ignorant to all aspects of Cannabis cultivation. I used to think that "hydro" was some sort of super bud that would make you face fall off, I was disapointed when I realized that the only reason people grow hydro is because they're only trying to increase profits, and they're selling you lower quality stuff. I remember even dealers who knew what they were talking about would try to hype their shit as "hydro" because we didn't know what the fuck that meant.
And, once again, there is no way that Mexican brick weed was grown indoors. Especially if it had seeds. But, that doesn't mean shit, some of the best weed in the world is grown outside.
I don't know what's up with you to be honestI don't really experience that kind of build up, unless I smoke too much of the same stuff. I usually buy a half ounce of super good shit and stretch that to make it last a month. Usually, by about week 3 the shit starts to lose it's potency. That's when I have to go find new shit. I never really just stop getting high though. I guarentee that the usual stuff you get (the schwaggy brick) is the culprit, not this latest batch of good shit. I just think that you probably smoke ALOT because that shit takes alot to get you high. I suggest growing your own. If you live alone you can grow a half pound of CHRONIC (remember, growing is easy) every 3 or 4 months easily, with almost no risk. If you have a little money to make an intial investment that is. Don't worry, your buddies will buy it up if it's better than what they can get, which it undoubtedly will be. That way, you can stop smoking brick weed, you can have a variety of strains to switch to when you get sick of one, and you can probably make extra money.
But hey, I'm serious, I could probably send you an eigth when my plants are done. It's totally safe, no risk at all.
Thanks for the help folks...I agree, this sort of THC blockup is strange. It may be due to my binge and purge usage patterns (I don't often get opportunities to light up when I'm here at home).
Thank you...I've been scouring the web trying to find out what makes hydro hydro!
Where is "here" and what price do you think this stuff would fetch?
The only time I've seen hash, a friend of a friend of a friend had smuggled it from Egypt. I seriously doubt I could get it here.
Could be a problem as I'm either at home or in a dorm room...my scholarship makes it a bit unlikely that I'll be living off-campus during the next 3 years but I will probably be in an on-campus apartment the final two years. I can always make friends and pitch into a communal garden in someone else's house. Hell, we brewed our own beer in my hall last year! Some guy was never in his room so he just put the temp to about 60 degrees (f) and we set up our contraption!
The last week or so has seen my initiation into the drug culture more or less. I smoked before and bought before, sure...but I'd never really been interested in the specifics. One thing I've noticed is that there is, as you say, a communication gap between those casual users who aren't educated enough to use anything other than "dealer-speak" and those who know what they are talking about. By this, I mean that casual users tend to describe weed in the same way dealers do, dishonestly. For example, around here, weed comes in three specific grades: schwag, KB, and hydro. Schwag is the crappy mexican stuff that sells for around 50 bucks an ounce. "KB" refers to mids in general...basically anything better than schwag is labeled KB and sold for around 20 bucks an eigth. Hydro simply refers to buds that aren't mids and it sells for 10-20 bucks a gram or more. Often this is the real deal, is hydroponically grown and comes from California. Just as often it is just good outdoor! Most casual smokers around here don't even know that KB is an actual strain of weed and is fairly hard to get ahold of.
I'm not entirely sure there is no risk...my mail has often been opened when I get it. However I would be very greatful for that. Hell, I could send you some money so that you could send it in a bag inside another, vaccum sealed bag inside an amazon.com box or something inside a larger box! They'll never find it then!
My final question is this: what do you guys think a fair price would be for stuff of this quality?
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My eyes can't focus and I'm having incredibly intense full-body orgasms...hitting in wave afterr resounding wave, snaking their way up through my feet, into my kegel muscle, up my abs and ending in my neck.
...this shit is nuts, my friends!
...oh, and I'm watching www.virtualom.com
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Are you sure that's just pot man?
I've never experienced anything like that merely from smoking reefer, ever.
And Urban can vouch for the quality of the shit around the Seattle parts, no joke.
Especially without noticeable crystals on the buds, I am skeptical.
Are you sure your shit isn't souped up with some shit?
