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    How close do you think this coming election will be?

    The libertarian party has my vote.But then again maybe GW cause he has a backbone although I dont agree with everything he does he still has morals,common knowledge,and he sticks to what he says.

    Flip Flop Kerry is a rich turd who does anything to get a vote.

    That and since Bush has been in office "The Man" has not come for my guns.hence no new gun laws.
    Sept the AWB will expire and I can put the bayonet back on the AK along with my folding stock.

    So how close do you think this election will be?
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    Originally posted by Robber Baron@Jul 22 2004, 07:47 PM
    How close do you think this coming election will be?

    The libertarian party has my vote.But then again maybe GW cause he has a backbone although I dont agree with everything he does he still has morals,common knowledge,and he sticks to what he says.

    Flip Flop Kerry is a rich turd who does anything to get a vote.

    That and since Bush has been in office "The Man" has not come for my guns.hence no new gun laws.
    Sept the AWB will expire and I can put the bayonet back on the AK along with my folding stock.

    So how close do you think this election will be?
    Hitler always kept his word. He had a backbone, you need to be gutsy to try and take over the world and kill 6 million people while you're at it.

    Just because someone stands up for what they believe in doesn't mean that belief is worth supporting.

    And why the hell do you need a Kalashnikov? Seriously, why? And a bayonet? What are you going to use that for aside from killing people?
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    I have it to protect me and mine.And also because people like you question why I have one.It kind of makes me nervous.If you catch my drift ole brady.
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    Originally posted by Robber Baron@Jul 22 2004, 08:43 PM
    And also because people like you question why I have one.It kind of makes me nervous.If you catch my drift ole brady.
    Why would that make you want to own something that can fire 10 rounds a second?
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    Well sit down for a sec and let me explain.
    Man has a right to defend him/her/it's self from all sorts of threats.And well why settle for anything less.

    A armed society is a polite one.

    It just freaks me out that someone tells me what I can have as a firearm.

    Ohh yea what seperates a free working man from a slave?A free working man has the chance to own firearms.

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    Hmm. I see what you mean. But still, I'd ban private gun ownership if it were possible.

    As for the free man/slave thing, no, I believe free will and self determination characterise a free man more than ownership of copious amounts of fire arms.
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    Originally posted by CubanFox+--> (CubanFox)Hitler always kept his word. He had a backbone, you need to be gutsy to try and take over the world and kill 6 million people while you're at it.[/b]


    Typical Bush is Hitler, you guys just don't seem to get it. Its this kind of crazy rhetoric that hurts your cause.

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    And why the hell do you need a Kalashnikov? Seriously, why? And a bayonet? What are you going to use that for aside from killing people?
    He needs it to fend of crazed communists after the revolution
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    Originally posted by Crusader 4 da truth@Jul 22 2004, 02:30 PM
    Typical Bush is Hitler, you guys just don't seem to get it. Its this kind of crazy rhetoric that hurts your cause.
    Indeed.
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    Typical Bush is Hitler, you guys just don't seem to get it. Its this kind of crazy rhetoric that hurts your cause.
    Its not even that. Cubanfox just pointed out that robberbaron was praising GW for having certain values, which is fine, really. However, he then pointed out that maybe these values/traits aren't positive.

    Believe me, I'm as tired of Bu$h = as you are.

    Edit: What I was originally going to say was this:

    Flip Flop Kerry is a rich turd who does anything to get a vote.
    Bush is only slightly less rich and I have no doubt that he and Kerry would go to similar lenghts to get a vote. Believe me, if you see any difference between Bush and Kerry, you should get yours eyes checked to say the least.
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    Originally posted by Crusader 4 da truth@Jul 22 2004, 07:30 AM
    Typical Bush is Hitler, you guys just don't seem to get it. Its this kind of crazy rhetoric that hurts your cause.
    No one said that Bush is Hitler. What was being said was that having certain traits doesn't necessarily make you a good person. It's fairly simple logic: Person A is proposed to be good because he has trait X. Person B, who is historically known to be a complete bastard, also had trait X. Thus, having trait X isn't necessarily conducive to being a decent person.

    That type of analogy is completely valid.
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    Originally posted by Robber Baron@Jul 22 2004, 11:06 AM

    Ohh yea what seperates a free working man from a slave?
    A "free working man" sells himself by the hour.
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    Now he tells you to make cities without bricks!
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    Originally posted by Robber Baron@Jul 22 2004, 09:47 AM
    How close do you think this coming election will be?

    The libertarian party has my vote.But then again maybe GW cause he has a backbone although I dont agree with everything he does he still has morals,common knowledge,and he sticks to what he says.

    Flip Flop Kerry is a rich turd who does anything to get a vote.

    That and since Bush has been in office "The Man" has not come for my guns.hence no new gun laws.
    Sept the AWB will expire and I can put the bayonet back on the AK along with my folding stock.

    So how close do you think this election will be?
    AK's are OK, they are quite sturdy, they'll discharge while wet, sandy, and with 1/4 of their parts missing.

    However, with a little aded TLC, I think a modern AR-15/M-16 is a better shooting weapon. better muzzle velocity, more rounds per minute, and more precise, especially at longer range. They also have the attachable grenade launcher.
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    AK's are OK, they are quite sturdy, they'll discharge while wet, sandy, and with 1/4 of their parts missing.
    That's a socialist gun you're talking about there. Are you sure you wouldn't like to retract the statement?
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    Originally posted by DaCuBaN@Jul 24 2004, 01:15 AM

    That's a socialist gun you're talking about there. Are you sure you wouldn't like to retract the statement?
    Hey, lets not kid ourselves, with this comment, much like the debates on this board, I can admit when certain points are good, but my final statement is always that "We're still better!!!
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    There is a grenade launcher attachment for a AK.

    I have a norinco MAK-90.And a Bushy m-4 (AR-15)

    In Sept I'll be able to have folding/Tele stocks thanks to AWB sunset.

    I like the AR but it's like a Porche.You have to baby it.
    The AK is like a Old Chevy.Run it and run it fast
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    Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial@Jul 24 2004, 01:12 AM
    AK's are OK, they are quite sturdy, they'll discharge while wet, sandy, and with 1/4 of their parts missing.

    However, with a little aded TLC, I think a modern AR-15/M-16 is a better shooting weapon. better muzzle velocity, more rounds per minute, and more precise, especially at longer range. They also have the attachable grenade launcher.
    AK's also have bigger rounds, capable of penetrating much more than an M-16. I've spoken to many people in the military here and even they admit the AK-47 is much more deadlier than an M-16, although those are more accurate.
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    Why would any of you carry a gun?Here in America we don&#39;t have gun crazy fiends running all over the place.Do you all live in such bad towns?
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    Originally posted by Colombia@Jul 24 2004, 06:52 AM
    Why would any of you carry a gun?Here in America we don&#39;t have gun crazy fiends running all over the place.Do you all live in such bad towns?
    people in the USA riot over Basketball games.Imagine if they were hungry.
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    Originally posted by DyerMaker@Jul 23 2004, 07:08 PM
    Person A is proposed to be good because he has trait X. Person B, who is historically known to be a complete bastard, also had trait X. Thus, having trait X isn&#39;t necessarily conducive to being a decent person.

    That type of analogy is completely valid.
    Not if you are arguing by non-essentials.
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    Originally posted by DaCuBaN@Jul 24 2004, 01:15 AM

    That&#39;s a socialist gun you&#39;re talking about there. Are you sure you wouldn&#39;t like to retract the statement?
    I wasn&#39;t aware guns had any political affilation.

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