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Blah blah didn't your mom ever teach you not to be patronising? Anyway I was wrong on the subject I know. For that I appologise.
So we agree news aren't objective. Then it would be nice if we can stop hearing rants about how FOX is objective. Who would you say editorialise? From the FOX I have seen I would say they tend to do the same. As does 60 minutes, CNN and the rest of the american crap we get over here.
CNN also gives a conservative point of view. As does alot of canadian tv stations am sure. FOX just does it in a way that alienates most other people than diehard conservative fundamentalists. But the point was that I made a mistake in asumeing it was the same as in Denmark were we have the distinction between the public and private. And it took you a long time to correct me, seems you don't even read the posts but just post something right away.
Well they are not loosing anything. But sure people should have the oppotunity. Everybody can need some escapism from real life.
In Defence Of Marxism
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An idiot can ask so many questions it will take years to reply. So if I don't reply to your posts it's probably why
Actually, Satellites transmit throuight the airwaves too, just on much higher frequencies.
So, because they are still taking up a position on those airwaves, they are still subject to the people's ownership of those airwaves. Cable, on the otherhand, is different, except that no cable channel is transmitted on cable solely. Usually they beam it to the different locations by satellite before it is transmitted by cable.
You’ve called me stupid and a liar and tried to imply that gummo was a Nazi, I think you can handle a little patronizing you’re a big boy…opps sorry.
Yes most aren’t but I’ve read some stories that are “just the facts”, but when it comes to political reporting this is very difficult.
Never made that claim, I do claim that they present the conservative side.
I don’t mind editorializing that’s what op-eds and news analysis shows are all about but when a Peter Jennings says this:
That’s an example of not playing it straight, its find that he’s pro choice but its not ok that he claims to be objective.
Depend on what you’ve seen Fox’s primetime lineup is news analysis programming as is 60 minutes, and some shows on CNN, they are free to editorialize.
I understand that you think its crap because it presents a different point of view, but I’m attempting to demonstrate the error in using the Govt to sensor it.
Really which ones? If so then they having nothing to fear from adding FNC to the mix.
No of course I don’t read you posts, I only dissect them line by line responding to every statement.
I couldn’t disagree with you more, when the government controls what can and cannot be seen, the people have lost a measure of freedom.
Question for you just so I’m absolutely clear about something. I’d like you answer you own question.
You implied the answer was yes but I want you to explicitly answer.
free·dom:
Pronunciation: 'frE-dom
1 : the absence of coercion, or constraint in choice or action
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito
Follow up question, I was having a similar discussion with a Democrat on another forum, and he flat out told me he did not believe in free speech and felt that some speech needed to be restricted by the govt. Do you feel that way Teis?
free·dom:
Pronunciation: 'frE-dom
1 : the absence of coercion, or constraint in choice or action
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito
Hmm yes in some cases. Racism for instance or advocating ethnic cleansing.
Yeah. Well Gummo is if not a nazi at least a guy with serious problems debating. Moreover he is just plain stupid.
Indeed.
Ok, I probably confused it with FOX owns patethic claim that they are objective.
And we see it the other way around also. It's at least better than using the bible for justification or as a source. A thing I see to often in USA.
No it's crap because it is USA centered. Still we get it. And what the fuck is an old fart like Andy Rooney doing in a news show? It just goes for the lowest common denominator.
Were you talking about FOX? The reason they alienates people is both flag wawing and that you have a show host taking his gun up at a show and saying he would kill Ossama. That's just well Rambo style. Maybe people love it in America...
Or if your talking about CNN, of course they present a conservative point. In the middle east they only interview people who are against the USA from a religious standpoint. Leaving the rest out.
Quite abstract. They still have the rest of the lot. So I take it it is also a great sin to not show kiddie porn?
Yes it's censorship. As it is to choose FOX over some others. Or not allow communist books in the library.
In Defence Of Marxism
Hands Off Venezuela
An idiot can ask so many questions it will take years to reply. So if I don't reply to your posts it's probably why
Good you’ve admitted it; I have never met a collectivist that was for freedom of speech. Despite the calms of “libertarian” communism, and the assurances that liberty would be possible in a communist society. Now we can proceed to debate the merits of govt. censorship.
You have noted two areas where you feel the government should suppress free expression. Why just two, are not Anti-Semitism, and homophobia as repugnant as racism? What about religious extremists or those deride religion?
Second how would you enforce such a ban? Would you have communist party agents canvassing the towns, and villages listening in conversations? What about someone who writes a novel, a play, or movie, that is racist? What about the internet?
Third how would you punish such crimes? What would you do to repeat offenders?
Again I’d ask for an example of any major News Organization in the US using the bible as a source, or justification, but I’m sure you don’t have any. Since you “see it so often” in the American media you should write some of it down, so the next time you in a debate with someone you can add some facts to your argument.
("Teis")No it's crap because it is USA centered. Still we get it.[/b][/quote]
Yes that the trouble with American news, it tends to focus on America.
("Teis") And what the fuck is an old fart like Andy Rooney doing in a news show? It just goes for the lowest common denominator.[/b][/quote]
I haven’t seen 60mins in a while but they are a self described “news magazine show” so Andy Rooney is free to editorialize, I suppose some people find him funny.
("Teis")Were you talking about FOX? The reason they alienates people is both flag wawing and that you have a show host taking his gun up at a show and saying he would kill Ossama. That's just well Rambo style. Maybe people love it in America [/b][/quote]
Yes I was talking about fox you said it alienates people, and my response was then the Canadian Govt has nothing to fear from allowing it to operate. If the programming on FNC is of such poor quality that it drives people away, then it will fail on its own, there is no reason for a Government ban.
As for the host flaunting his firearms, I’m unaware of this incident do you have any documentation?
("Teis")Or if your talking about CNN, of course they present a conservative point. In the middle east they only interview people who are against the USA from a religious standpoint. Leaving the rest out.[/b][/quote]
care to rethink that statement.
("Teis")Quite abstract. They still have the rest of the lot. [/b][/quote]
Its not abstract at all, but you are a collectivist so allow me to make more concrete for you . When a Government authority controls what information can and cannot be disseminated robbing the people of choice, they have lost a critical freedom.
Children are unable to give consent; their minds are immature and developing. The fact that you would try and equate government restrictions on political discourse to child porn is distributing.
Yes that’s the point, though I’ve never heard of a library banning communist books, in America. Does this occur in Europe?
free·dom:
Pronunciation: 'frE-dom
1 : the absence of coercion, or constraint in choice or action
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito
Nope but when caught people would be put on trial. Quite simple, as happens today when the USA bans something.
Religion is ok, except when they cross the line. The religious nutcases in the 700 club can do what they like. Btw anti-semitism is racism.
Of course the journalists don't that's obvious. But the bible is used as a sourche and justification in everything from some newspapers to the presidents speeches. We both know that so shouldn't we stop beating around the bush?
Yes indeed. In most other countries they focus more on the world. But then again you live in the most selfcentred country so it's no wonder.
Yes there's no need for a ban.
Well it's hearsay. I will look into it.
Nope, because I forgot to add they either view it as religious or baathist.
Like in the USA? You remembewr the recent case with that anarchist being arrested because of his webswite? Maybe you should start with your own country?
So you are pro censorship afterall....
Nope only in USA. And several dictatorships of course.
In Denmark our public libraries have almost everything and if they don't have it you just get em to order it.
Btw there's a discussion on FOX, im wondering why you haven't rushed to it's defence http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index...howtopic=27766
In Defence Of Marxism
Hands Off Venezuela
An idiot can ask so many questions it will take years to reply. So if I don't reply to your posts it's probably why
There is quite simply no room for U.S. Government propaganda on Canandian television. It makes about as much sense as broadcasting the CBC in Los Angeles.
"The Pope? How many [military] divisions has he got? [said jokingly]"
- Joey Stalin
Well said....I suppose we wouldnt be having this discussion if the Canadian Government had decided not to allow al - Jazeera?
We are happy not to be getting FNC anymore....when it was previously available, most people I know were, frankly, stunned by the obvious "holywood style" reporting and blatant distortions!
Redstar2000
Free People's Movement
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