Thread: petro chemicals

Results 1 to 9 of 9

  1. #1
    Join Date Dec 2003
    Posts 75
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    petro chemical in my opinion are bad 4 the environment and ne thing that is bad 4 the environment is bad 4 humans i think we need a new fule scource if we want to be ne were near starting a revolution how bout u other guys what do u think ??
    h34r:
  2. #2
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Location U$A
    Posts 3,698
    Rep Power 30

    Default

    first of all, stop it with the short hand typing, like ne and 4, just write the fucker out! I use it too when talking to my friends online because its faster but dont use it here. Just try to make it a habbite because English is not everyones first language on this board and lingo like that makes it confusing.

    ok back to petroleum chemicals, some of them are bad for the enviorment but we must use what is needed to advance society and i dont understand how the revolution will be effected by this. We need to find a new fuel not just because petroleum is dagerous to the enviorment but because it will diminsh in the near future.
    You can't learn to swim in a library.
  3. #3
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Location UK
    Posts 2,631
    Rep Power 18

    Default

    stop it with the short hand typing
    This is not an internet chat room, and hence speed of response is not of relevance. In fact it's better for everyone if every post is written out in the best grammar you can manage and that time and thought is put into it's content

    Excepting the chit-chat forum.

    petro chemical in my opinion are bad
    'Bad' is an odd term, but they are certainly doing harm to the environment. There are plenty of 'plus' points to them of course, but I'll concede.

    ne thing that is bad 4 the environment is bad 4 humans
    Not necessarily.... The combustion engine is dreadful for the environment, yet without it distribution would become a major headache, causing a lot more human suffering.

    think we need a new fule scource
    I agree... any suggestions?
    Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
    Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
  4. #4
    Join Date Dec 2003
    Posts 75
    Rep Power 0

    Default

    hydrogen or ethenol would be nice i duno though maby someone else has better ideas h34r:
  5. #5
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Location U$A
    Posts 3,698
    Rep Power 30

    Default

    hydrogen has great possibilities, with the development of hydrogen fuel cells vehicals can be produced that only have water as a bi product, no toxic or green house gasses!
    You can't learn to swim in a library.
  6. #6
    Join Date Apr 2004
    Location UK
    Posts 2,631
    Rep Power 18

    Default

    That, and there's bloody loads of the stuff

    Going to be a while yet
    Adiel: How can you defend a country where 5 percent of the people control 95 percent of the wealth?
    Lisa: I'm defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Adiel: Cannot!
    Lisa: Can to!
    Homer: Please, please, kids; stop fighting. Maybe Lisa is right about America being the land of opportunity, maybe Adiel has a point about the machinery of capitalism being oiled with the blood of the workers.
  7. #7
    Join Date Mar 2004
    Location Woodstock Nation
    Posts 281
    Rep Power 16

    Default

    grass as a fuel source has been proven to very efficient
    makeup leader for the Ignoramus Squadron

    <span style=\'color:red\'>skinhead moonstomp- oi&#33;, 2-tone, ska, punk, and more</span>

    I was raised on Queen and Country
    But began to reason why
    Everytime somebody fly&#39;s the flag
    Someone has to die
    You can fly the flag in the Albert Hall
    If you&#39;re upper class
    But if you fly the flag at football
    You&#39;re lower than a rattlesnakes arse

    Some people stand up for socialism
    Some people stand up for capitalism
    Some people stand up for patriotism
    The last refuge of a scoundrel

    They dream up rules the Law Lords
    To keep you in your place
    But when They choose to go to war
    You see their other face
    In the Name of God they ask you
    For England to set sail
    The choice is join the Army
    The choice is rot in jail
  8. #8
    Join Date Feb 2004
    Location aotearoa
    Posts 770
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    Well beside the obvious of wether nor not they seriously damage the enviroment is the question of sustainability... if oil is running out that means products made with oil (petrol - petrochemicals..) will be unable to be made.
    Even alternative energy sources need oil - solar panels and wind power have metal and plastic in their construction etc. Really we need to look into the source of our energy systems for the long term and the imediate.

    last hours of ancient sunlight is a good book on it.
    &#39;I&#39;m not proposing we should all get naked and be neandertals,
    But we can live a simpler life - one that might take us away from the materialism that destroys our air, our water, and each other.&quot; - Possuelo

    &#39;man is born free and everywhere he is in chains&#39; - Rousseau

    property is theft

    www.savehappyvalley.org.nz
  9. #9
    Norm Peterson
    Guest

    Default

    petro chemical in my opinion are bad 4 the environment and ne thing that is bad 4 the environment is bad 4 humans i think we need a new fule scource if we want to be ne were near starting a revolution how bout u other guys what do u think ??
    What a well thought out post. I would be willing to bet that if you asked this gentleman to define a petrochemical he would falter.

    To put things in perspective, petrochemicals are "chemicals obtained from petroleum either by steam cracking or as by-products of refinery operations They serve as raw materials for the chemical industry."

    source: http://www.learnchem.net/glossary/o.shtml

    Many of these compounds are used to manufacture medicines, plastics, adhesives, synthetic fibers, pesticides, fertilizers, and generally things that make the world a better place for its billions of citizens. Products associated with the petrochemical industry account for 1 trillion of the 2 trillion dollar chemical industry, according to Dr. Rao&#39;s "Petrochemical Trends of this Century".

    I highly doubt anyone here has the technical background to understand the organic chemistry, reaction engineering, separation processes, thermodynamics, heat transfer, fluid mechanics , or environmental science that would allow them to adequately judge whether or not the world should use petrochemicals. Quite frankly, those decisions are best made by qualified individuals. These materials have greatly enhanced the quality of life for mankind. As such an important aspect of the global economy, the environmental cost/benefit analysis should be done by educated people. This industry should not be impacted because of a large number of hysterical luddites. The environmental impact should be closely watched and accounted for through innovative engineering practices and a responsible, well-educated public.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Tags for this Thread