World Revolution?

[ComradeRed]

Will the revolution include or exclude third world nations? Or only the high capitalist states?

[Raisa]

This always depends on who you ask. There are tons of ideas.
What do you think Comrade? And why? Think about it, while you read what others think.

[DaCuBaN]

The idea of a 'global revolution' seems somewhat far-fetched if you ask me... considering the majority of leftists seem to be unable to tell their arse from their elbow, I can't really imagine any militia organisation based on such principles ever succeeding. That said, I do believe if revolution is going to work it must be on a global scale.

It would seem more sensible to have it build up in stages, but again this argument contains gaping holes... once you've secured a particular locality, do you move your revolutionaries onto the next? Do you 'hold the line' against the inevitable attacks that would happen should anyone attempt a revolt in a heavily industrialised nation.

I would dearly love to be able to give an answer, but in truth there is no definite answer.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by DaCuBaN@Jul 10 2004, 12:42 AM
... once you've secured a particular locality, do you move your revolutionaries onto the next? Do you 'hold the line' against the inevitable attacks that would happen should anyone attempt a revolt in a heavily industrialised nation.

I would dearly love to be able to give an answer, but in truth there is no definite answer.

I think that it is important to do both, and to have enough dedicated people involved to be able to pay attention to both.

[Pawn Power]

hopfully the worldwide revolution will include workers from all countries including third world countries. They are being oppressed too!

[Wiesty]

there will be no "world revolution"

the upper class countries are rolling in dough so they got no point to start one
and the lower classes are dirt poor and politically broken so they dont have the money, resources, etc. to start one

[VukBZ2005]

There will be a World Revolution as i said before,

But it will be one unlike any other in the history of Mankind. It Will be
a fight to free oursleves from Capitalism. It's a system that is destroying
us - And Once the rest of the working class realizes that the current Capitalist
order is our real Enemy - Then they will see the need to overthrow it Completely
and estabilish a Real Communist Society. :hammer:

[guerrillaradio]

If the revolution is not global, then it cannot be just. The concept of bourgeiousie vs proleteriat simply doesn't apply in the developed world. The new class struggle is First World vs Third World.

[redstar2000]

It seems to me that the most likely scenario is a proletarian revolution in several western European countries (particularly France and Germany) more or less simultaneously.

After that, things get fuzzy.



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[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by redstar2000@Jul 11 2004, 07:11 AM
It seems to me that the most likely scenario is a proletarian revolution in several western European countries (particularly France and Germany) more or less simultaneously.

After that, things get fuzzy.



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Why do you think Germany and France?

[ComradeRed]

They are the industrial giants of the EU!

[The Feral Underclass]

So is the UK?

[Essential Insignificance]

It seems to me that the most likely scenario is a proletarian revolution in several western European countries (particularly France and Germany) more or less simultaneously.

I more suggestive of and hopeful for the south end of Europe, i.e. Greece, Italy and Spain.

I believe that France is a real possibility as well in the near future, but not Germany as much; but as one goes the another might just do the same!

[Ziggy]

i really don't think there will be a "world revolution" like what most people dream of on this site with the proleteriat rising up in arms, but will be a diplomatic revolution that will take time and be slow. I just find the whole idea of a world revolution unlikely. the weapon of change will not be the gun on the street but the pen in the office. you can cause more change from the inside then from the outside. to think that a global militia is going to lead us in revolution is just too unrealistic.

[rahul]

i personally belong to india[t.w.nation],here the situation is differrent..ours is a huge sub-continenet we cant say when revolution will come. at times we feel revolution will come very soon and at times we find no chances for the survival of revolution.here people dont try to believe revolution. and in some places people are living in revolution.for example in a state of west bengal[kolcutta]--communists are ruling since 27 years [thats a record in indian history!!] ....... like this the indian revolution is in a great dilema

[T_SP]

My organisation has numerous bases in around the world ( 35 countries I believe) they are all in constant contact and I believe when a revolution comes about it will spark of chain reaction around the globe, but in order for Communism to stay in place and be a 'Pure' form of Communism it will have to be worldwide.

[Louis Pio]

A succesfull revolution in one country would ignite other countries. That's why the situation in Venezuela now is so important since it would be the spark that ignites the rest of Latin America. Just think about how the russian revolution inspired the rest of Europe. The big problem is the weakness of the subjective factor (the revolutionary party). Also most marxist groups just place themselves on the sidelines of the labour movement and shout traitors after the leaders and then they feel they have done their job (and that they are very pure). What is important is our ability to connect with the advanced layers of the working class. And for that we need to skip alot of the secterianism that exists on the left.
The new revolutionary party WILL NOT come about just because 3 men and a dog proclaims it.