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    Amongst my former school collegues there seems to be a significant number of girls who have had babies in the year since we left school. Now I am assuming that most of them were accidental but, the thought struck me that one solution to cutting down on teenage pregnancy would be compulsory usage of the Pill for all girls of a potentially sexually active age. Now, is this too authoritarian or, in principal, is it a workable idea?
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    I don't think this is such a good idea. Forcing people to do something like this, just really is not plausible, especially in the US. Here's a better idea: work out a system were young girls can get the pill for free or for cheap, then you might have more grls taking the pill.
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    Or just bloody sheath up!

    I mean for crying out loud, they are easy-on these days!

    On a less strained note, the pill isn't the only method available. I had one girfriend who refused (bugger knows why) to use condoms and instead went and got the quad-annual injections. If you were going to have an enforced scheme, it would seem that this would be a better system for doing it.

    I don't like the idea though: for me it is combatting the symptoms, and not the disease itself: lack of forethought, lack of education and marketing.
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    I have a few issues with this idea. One being that it places sole responsibility on the woman. What about the men who take part? Why not have them take a mandatory pill or get vasectomy? Responsibility needs to be on both, not just on the woman.

    Second- i have an issue with just having concern about pregnancy. Why is it that people fail to concern themselves with STD's such as HIV/AIDS or HPV? There cannot be just a focus on pregnancy as it is very dangerous to do so. You make people feel that this is only a concern for some people and not everyone.

    Third- the idea of mandatory pill taking rather than education is ridiculous. Education gets people further when it comes to sex. If receiving a proper sexual education people can make correct choices. To literally save yourself from disaster or death through ways of sex you have to be educated.
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    One being that it places sole responsibility on the woman. What about the men who take part? Why not have them take a mandatory pill or get vasectomy? Responsibility needs to be on both, not just on the woman.
    Yeah, you have got a point. But the reason I used the idea of the pill for women was that I wasn&#39;t aware of a male variety was available, and also arn&#39;t vasectomies irriversable? If so that would be a lot more severe than I was thinking...

    y is it that people fail to concern themselves with STD&#39;s such as HIV/AIDS or HPV?
    I think that&#39;&#39;s the biggest flaw in the argument.

    I think, as most people have said, that the best solution is education. Society needs to accept that underage teenagers are having sex, and concern itself with making sure they do it safely rather than just discouraging it and hoping it isn&#39;t happening as currrently seems to be the case. Maybe the answer is that when a girl/boy reaches thirteen rather than getting a compulsory jab/pill they simply get three years worth of condoms through the door, and instructions on how to use them...
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    Considering the side-effect of the pill i don&#39;t think it&#39;s very sensible to force girls to take it. What about those who aren&#39;t even sexualy active yet have to put up with the side effects or what about girld who want to get pregnant?

    A more sensible solution would be to hand out free condoms.
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    again its a matter of education, stop protecting children from the reasl world and tell them about it, they will find out, i don&#39;t think the pill should be compulsory i think that premotes sex too much, sex should be a personal thing kids should be educated and make they&#39;re own decisions not given the pill so we don&#39;t get any accidents, the pill won&#39;t stop STD&#39;s either

    indeed free condoms is far better idea
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    Now, is this too authoritarian?
    In a word, yes.
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    Teach girls and boys about these kinda things at school, give free condoms to them perhaps. In Holland we do those things and our teenage pregnancy rate is pretty low, but if you look at the UK, where these things are taboo I think, teenage pregnancy rate is the highest in Europe
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    and also arn&#39;t vasectomies irriversable? If so that would be a lot more severe than I was thinking...

    Nope, they are reversable. Its sterilization in womyn that is irreversable.
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    Like James said, free johnies for everyone. Stops pregnancy and STI&#39;s.
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    Nope, they are reversable. Its sterilization in womyn that is irreversable
    I can&#39;t remember the exact terms, but there are two forms of one of which is, one of which isn&#39;t.
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    Lisa: I&#39;m defending a country where people can think and act and worship any way they want&#33;
    Adiel: Cannot&#33;
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    I was sickened at the thought of forcing someone to take something against their will. That is one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen written on here (no offence intended). Free condoms... a better idea. Accepting that some people may want a child, also a good idea. I don&#39;t think that the human race would be in the state it is now if there were no accidents. Almost all children I know were accidents, the nly people "trying" for a baby are people that have noticed that they haven&#39;t slipped up yet, often because something is wrong. Ask yourslef would I have been born if my mother was forced onto the pill? Of course due to over population and the stresses of being successful in today&#39;s workforce fewer children could be a good thing.
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    Sounds like fascism to me
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