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Excuse my ignorance, but why did Marx say this?
I've also heard he said something like:
"I've lived long enough to know that I am not a Marxist"
Was Jesus a christian??
<span style=\'color:red\'>If voting changed anything,they'd make it illegal.</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!
If I can't dance, I don't want your revolution!
If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution!</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>"The proletarians of the world have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workers of all countries: Unite!"</span>
It was in responce to a Socialist group who claimed to be Marxist, Marx however did not approve of their methods so he said something along the lines of "If they are Marxist, then I am not." That's where the quote originates from...
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
John Lennon: Working Class Hero
Thank you. But what about the last one?
"I've lived long enough to know that I am not a Marxist"
They say he said it right before he died.
No that's a myth I've never heard of before. His last words were, "Go on, get out, last words are for fools who haven't said enough already"
<span style=\'color:red\'><u>THERE IS NO GOD</u>
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Did he pass away right after he said it, or did he just keep his mouth shut until he died?
Wow, I think I need to find me own last words...
Well, that would sort of go against Marx's teachings. Why not just say your 'last words' in life. And you can save the panic, at the end.
Besides after you say some last words, you can't say anything else until you die...because you could come with some inspiring last words, on your death bed....and then say something stupid like...pass the sandwiches..
"How you cling to your purity, young man! How afraid you are to soil your hands! All right, stay pure! What good will it do? Why did you join us? Purity is an idea for a yogi or a monk. You intellectuals and Bourgeois anarchists use it as a pretext for doing nothing. To do nothing, to remain motionless, arms at your sides, wearing kids gloves. Well, I have dirty hands. Right up to the elbows. I've plunged them in the filth and blood. But what do you hope? Do you think you'll govern innocently?"-Jean-Paul Sartre
I think all last words in history are all bullshit.
The spiritual atom bomb which the revolutionary people possess is a far more powerful and useful weapon than the physical atom bomb. - Lin Biao
Our code of morals is our revolution. What saves our revolution, what helps our revolution, what protects our revolution is right, is very right and very honourable and very noble and very beautiful, because our revolution means justice
- Dr. George Habash, founder of the PFLP.
Could be. People definately make more out of them than they are. Pancho Villa's last words, spoken to a reporter doing a deathbedside interview, were "Do not let it end like this. Tell them I said something."
O, why should wrath be mute, and fury dumb?
I am no baby, I, that with base prayers
I should repent the evils I have done:
Ten thousand worse than ever yet I did
Would I perform, if I might have my will;
If one good deed in all my life I did,
I do repent it from my very soul.
Act V, Scene III; Titus Andronicus--W. Shakespeare
Last words are kinda weird and I agree with them being changed to seem more heroic. Some kind of media friendly sound bite.
I'd like mine to be a simple "bye"
<span style=\'color:black\'>Culture sucks down words
Itemise loathing and feed yourself smiles
Organise your safe tribal war
Hurt maim kill and enslave the ghetto</span>
<span style=\'color:red\'>Life lies a slow suicide
Orthodox dreams and symbolic myths
From feudal serf to spender
This wonderful world of purchase power</span>
Most of the social democrats of Marx's day, considered themselves Marxists and distorted his theories. Marx's response was that, if this is what Marxism had become, then he was not a Marxist like them.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
Yes, that is exactly what Karl Marx had said as his "last words."
Of course, history is always being rewriten by "historians"... take the most famous words attributed to Nathan Hale, "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country." This was supposedly his "Last words" yet had never said this. It was a fabrication by an author almost 100 years after his death.
In attacking Karl Marx... many attribute different meaning to the line Karl Marx had uttered, "I've lived long enough to know that I am not a Marxist" which already has been said in this thread, was attributed to a particular group calling themselves Marxists... but has been used by anti-Marxists to say that on his deathbed Karl Marx recanted and said he didn't believe what he wrote about. That.. is bullshit because unlike Nathan Hale, what Marx actually said was well doccumented.
In Solidarity,
RC
I can shed some light on why he said that, and that quote is supposedly true.
Whilst living in London some guy was obsessed with Marx and bothered him a lot, talking about "marxism" which Marx himself did not call his ideas - he called them "Scientific socialism". And as we know Marx's followers called in dialectical materialism.
Anyway this fellow followed him about annoying him and said he was starting a "marxist club". Marx rounded on him saying, "JE NE SUIS PAS UNE MARXISTE!" french for "I am not a marxist". No one knows really why he said it in French.
odd, that. is ait an rud e!
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'From its origin the bourgeoisie was saddled with its antithesis: capitalists cannot exist without wage workers' - Engels, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
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Oscar Wilde's last words had something to do with the curtains in the hotel room.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
by "last words" i think history means "last serious thought voiced"
