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    You guys preach on and on about class struggles and such. The ones really hurting from this the most are of course minorities. They vote for these so called guilty white liberals, whom some of you would say are Mussolini because you guys are so far gone to the left, and listen to Marxist professors who talk the talk but never walk the walk. I want to see a Libertarian Che. I would fund a counter revolution with Free Market guerillas with a mindset to take away the Proletariat away from you Leninists and help them self govern.
    Public Education would be the first thing to reform, which leftists have completely destroyed. Hey, how many of you are FOR vouchers for inner city minorities?
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    What are trying to say? How are we hurting minorities?

    I would fund a counter revolution with Free Market guerillas with a mindset to take away the Proletariat away from you Leninists and help them self govern.
    This is a remarkably anarchist position (Apart from the bit about free market of course) I agree with you on self-government.
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    1. High taxes and regulations keep minority upstarts down ofcourse.
    2. A government monopoly on education keeps many minorities in urban closets.
    3. All of the leftist spew keeps minorities in this collectivst mob mindset. As if each Latino is going to help his Latino brother when a job is at the whims.
    4. The whole notion of the white power struggle is bogus and society has built a wall around keeping ignorance from the likes of the Nation of Islam, Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson from spreading into reasonable thought in America.
    5. Stop calling hispanics that Free Think their way out of the clutches of the so called "free Thinkers", vendidos.
    6. Minorities have the free market at thier fingertips and they waste it listening to guilty white liberals and bread and circus politicians. Not to mention Marxist professors.

    Lets talk American politics.
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    1. I'd be more worried about your condemnation if you could actually form a coherent thought. Hell, even a coherent sentence would be nice.

    2. THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IS NOT MARXIST! It has never once in its entire history been ruled by a party that has referred to itself as Marxist. In fact, it has been the leading participant in anti-Marxism. So why do you think that we are somehow responsible for its fate?
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    I dont care if the government of the USA is not Marxist. It still adopted leftist thinking to expirement social reforms on minorities with public schooling and such. John Dewey, a self-avowed socialist, was the pioneer of public school.
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    You guys preach on and on about class struggles and such. The ones really hurting from this the most are of course minorities.
    Yes, minorities are often hurt more in a class society, this is correct.

    They vote for these so called guilty white liberals, whom some of you would say are Mussolini because you guys are so far gone to the left, and listen to Marxist professors who talk the talk but never walk the walk.
    I'm sure it was just an honest mistake, but you seem to have posted nonsensical rambling instead of an argument.

    I would fund a counter revolution with Free Market guerillas with a mindset to take away the Proletariat away from you Leninists and help them self govern.
    Leninism IS self government of the proletariat. The free market generally doesn't help anyone who doesn't already have money.

    Public Education would be the first thing to reform, which leftists have completely destroyed.
    Well if by 'destroyed', you mean 'created,' then yes, we're guilty as charged. The public school system in the US has disintergrated over the past many years due to underfunding from right wing governments (oh sorry, I mean an international Marxist conspiracy bent on destroying public education for minorities - that's right communists control the government, look out&#33

    1. High taxes and regulations keep minority upstarts down ofcourse.
    Ya, if only we cut taxes (and subsequently slashed social services) all the poor minorities who presently live below the poverty line would be able to start their own businesses and prosper! What a super ideology capitalism is, why didn't we think of that?


    2. A government monopoly on education keeps many minorities in urban closets.
    Right, all we need to do is build a $50,000 a year private school in the middle of Compton and all the poor inner city kids will get great educations!

    3. All of the leftist spew keeps minorities in this collectivst mob mindset. As if each Latino is going to help his Latino brother when a job is at the whims.
    Whoops, irrelevant drivel again! (Just a heads up)

    4. The whole notion of the white power struggle is bogus and society has built a wall around keeping ignorance from the likes of the Nation of Islam, Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson from spreading into reasonable thought in America.
    Uh, what are you trying to say? Your post pretty much goes downhill from here, so I'll just stop.

    It still adopted leftist thinking to expirement social reforms on minorities with public schooling and such. John Dewey, a self-avowed socialist, was the pioneer of public school.
    Well you're correct in saying that public schooling is a leftwing idea, however you seem to be forgetting that public school, by its very nature, is for EVERYONE, not just minorities. I'd like to hear your justification for the claim that public school was an experiment on minorities. I also find it strange that you now accuse public schools of being some sort of 'twisted socialist experiment,' while in your first post, you defended them saying they would be the first reform you would make and that presently they have been destroyed by leftists (although now you claim that they were actually created by leftists).
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    Leninism IS self government of the proletariat
    Excuse while I hold my sides with laughter.
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    Originally posted by NYC4Ever@Jun 24 2004, 06:38 PM
    1. High taxes and regulations keep minority upstarts down ofcourse.
    2. A government monopoly on education keeps many minorities in urban closets.
    3. All of the leftist spew keeps minorities in this collectivst mob mindset. As if each Latino is going to help his Latino brother when a job is at the whims.
    4. The whole notion of the white power struggle is bogus and society has built a wall around keeping ignorance from the likes of the Nation of Islam, Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson from spreading into reasonable thought in America.
    5. Stop calling hispanics that Free Think their way out of the clutches of the so called "free Thinkers", vendidos.
    6. Minorities have the free market at thier fingertips and they waste it listening to guilty white liberals and bread and circus politicians. Not to mention Marxist professors.

    Lets talk American politics.
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    Originally posted by Osman Ghazi@Jun 24 2004, 08:49 PM
    1. I'd be more worried about your condemnation if you could actually form a coherent thought. Hell, even a coherent sentence would be nice.

    2. THE GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IS NOT MARXIST! It has never once in its entire history been ruled by a party that has referred to itself as Marxist. In fact, it has been the leading participant in anti-Marxism. So why do you think that we are somehow responsible for its fate?
    re #1) His submission was very coherent, and made all the sense in the world. You leftist scum just don''t like it when the inherent flaws in liberal pandering to minorities is exposed for the offensive crutch it is.

    re#2) I don't think that is what he was suggesting.
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    By the way, I've never seen a "classless society" (I.e. oppressive commie or socialist regime) that had a significant minority population. They have historically been quite homogenous.
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    Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial@Jun 24 2004, 05:47 PM
    By the way, I've never seen a "classless society" (I.e. oppressive commie or socialist regime) that had a significant minority population. They have historically been quite homogenous.
    No one has ever tried to claim that any existing Leninist regime has been a classless society, but historically, Socialism has been the best deterrant towards ethnic conflict to ever exist. Russia is a great example. You never found much anti-Semitism after Stalin made it punishable by death.
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    By the way, I've never seen a "classless society" (I.e. oppressive commie or socialist regime) that had a significant minority population. They have historically been quite homogenous.
    The Soviet Union or just even Russia was not homogenous. You should read on the subject before writing. Yougoslavia was not homogenous either. China is in no way homogenous either.
    All of those were stalinist regimes ín one way or another.
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    John Dewey, a self-avowed socialist, was the pioneer of public school.
    None of us ever know as much as we should, but the depths of ignorance displayed by the cappies on this board are indeed breath-taking.

    Perhaps no one more deserves the title of father of American public school education than Horace Mann...

    Between 1827 and 1848, Horace Mann had a brilliant career, first as a State Representative and then as a Senator, in the Massachusetts Legislature...

    In 1837 Horace Mann accepted the position of First Secretary of the State Board of Education in Massachusetts...

    [In 1843] Horace Mann inspected and appraised favorably the Prussian school system...

    Mann asserted that education was a natural right for every child. It is a necessary responsibility of the State to insure that education was provided for every child. This report led to the adoption of the first State law requiring compulsory attendance in school in 1852...

    [In 1848] He presented a rationale for the support of public education through taxation. Society improves as a result of an educated public. He argued for non-sectarian schools, so the taxpayer would not be in the position of supporting any established religion with which he might disagree in conscience...
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    It's quite unlikely that the late Mr. Mann ever even heard the word "socialism".



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    Hey, how many of you are FOR vouchers for inner city minorities?
    Vouchers? You gotta be kidding me. True public schools are lacking in funds and at times can be sub-par, especially in the inner-city, but privatizing education is not the answer. Private schools don&#39;t have to offer special education and can decide who they allow to enroll in their school. By allowing vouchers for inner city schools, you&#39;d be helping some kids, but then hurting a whole other group of students.
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    Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial@Jun 25 2004, 12:47 AM
    By the way, I&#39;ve never seen a "classless society" (I.e. oppressive commie or socialist regime) that had a significant minority population. They have historically been quite homogenous.
    Not every one in the Soviet Union is russian or white. There are tons of ethnic groups in that country just like in the United States, the only difference really is the history.

    Was there ever a time that they forced people from some where else to come be their slave?
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    I think vouchers are a half assed retreat from the problem.

    It should be made sure that all schools are of quality.
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    Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial@Jun 25 2004, 10:47 AM
    By the way, I&#39;ve never seen a "classless society" (I.e. oppressive commie or socialist regime) that had a significant minority population. They have historically been quite homogenous.
    The whole point of the USSR was that it had dozens of minorities in it. They gave them entire SSRs to live in. On numerous occaisons, Lenin urged the peoples of the USSR to combat Russian chauvinism.

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    Originally posted by DyerMaker@Jun 25 2004, 01:29 AM
    No one has ever tried to claim that any existing Leninist regime has been a classless society, but historically, Socialism has been the best deterrant towards ethnic conflict to ever exist. Russia is a great example. You never found much anti-Semitism after Stalin made it punishable by death.
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    Originally posted by CubanFox@Jun 25 2004, 08:36 AM
    The whole point of the USSR was that it had dozens of minorities in it. They gave them entire SSRs to live in. On numerous occaisons, Lenin urged the peoples of the USSR to combat Russian chauvinism.

    Don&#39;t pay too much attention to history, do you?
    Yes, I do, and i noticed that such ethnic groups constituted most of the conscripted front line soldiers in Afghanistan.

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