Thread: Nick Berg execution?

Results 1 to 4 of 4

  1. #1
    Mr. White
    Guest

    Default

    There have been some discussion about the death of Nick Berg.

    Latelly there have come more and more evidence that it was all fake.

    .....
    1)
    Inconsistencies in the Timeline Edit

    WM-----|-----Video Clock-----|-----Screen Shot
    0:00 ---|--- nothing ---|-------Arabic letters
    0:05 ---|--- 13:26:24 ---|--- Nick Berg speaking
    0:09 ---|---- 2:18:33 ---|--- Nick Berg sitting
    0:20 ---|---- 2:40:33 ---|--- Speach in Arabic
    4:36 ---|---- 2:44:56 ---|--- Speaker pushes Berg over
    4:38 ---|--- 13:45:48 ---|--- Decapitation begins
    4:43 ---|--- 13:45:52 ---|--- Picture lost
    4:44 ---|--- 13:45:59 ---|--- Picture returns, decapitation continues

    2)
    2:42:11- Notice that #3 keeps moving his head from the pages to the camera very frequently and there is more page flipping where the voice does not take a pause.

    13:46:19- #3 is finishing off the head while #2 is holding Nick's arm.It seems as if any motion of Nick's body are due to #'s 2&3 pulling on his body, not any resistance, which has been mercifully absent since this last filming segment started.

    13:46:31- Head is being severely tilted back as what looks like the last cut in being made

    13:47:48- ANOTHER TAPE GAP: This segment begins with #2 lifting up the head. How did it get transfered to him?

    More:

    -By the time any cutting started on the neck, the body was lifeless.
    -Nick was not killed directly after being pushed over; that was some 11 hours earlier
    -The severed head did not look tormented.
    -Between 13:26:24 (when Nick is last seen sitting in the chair in the very first clip) and 13:45:49 or so (when the cutting started in earnest, the body has become lifeless. How is unclear.
    -Citing an 11-hour gap in the sequence is probably nonsense.
    The video is shot with 2 video cameras with their internal timestamps set differently.

    2)
    One of the men has a large silver watch with a large bulbous crystal on his left hand.
    If you find that watch in any of the Abu Ghraib abuse pictures, you'll know who one of the murderers are.

    3)
    The guy in the white hood is not the same as in the last frame:
    He goes from holding Berg's body (at the back) to suddenly being the guy making the final cuts and holding up his head.

    4)
    Extremely convenient "wag the dog" timing at the height of furor regarding U.S. torture of Iraqis

    5)
    Berg's last known whereabouts was in U.S. custody

    6)
    Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of U.S. issue

    7)
    Berg mysteriously captured by Al-Quaeda (still wearing jumpsuit). Either he escaped from U.S. captors or U.S. let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by Al-Quaeda (before he had a chance to change)

    8)
    Tape obviously spliced together and heavily edited. Goes from a) Berg sitting in chair talking about family, to b) Berg sitting on floor with hooded "militants" behind, to c) blurry camera movement, to d) almost motionless Berg on floor as head cut off.

    9)
    Audio clearly dubbed in, but probably also CODEC problem

    10)
    "Arab" reader flips through pages of "statement" and keeps ending up on the same page. Perhaps doesn't even known enough Arabic to recognize what page he's on?

    11)
    Arabs" have lily-white hands and (other exposed) skin

    12)
    "Arabs" have Western-style body posture and mannerisms

    13)
    When Berg decapitated, there was almost no blood. If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the "Arab" who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it.

    14)
    Berg's body didn't move while on the ground. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip.

    15)
    Camera angle made it impossible to see if Berg's eyes were even open

    16)
    Alleged "scream" from Berg sounded to be that of a woman and was clearly dubbed in


    17)
    Berg goes to great trouble to identify himself, providing information about his family. Why? To elicit greater sympathy? Or to provide a positive ID. FBI visited Berg family in an attempt to "verify his identity". Guy in video looks very little like Berg photos provided by family

    18)
    Nick Berg's Connection with the "20th hijacker" of 9/11, Zacarias Moussaoui, is yet not really explained

    19)
    Fat, white fidgety terra'ists wearing tennis shoes, the leader of which:

    a) is wearing the sort of large gold ring that is expressly forbidden in fundy Islamic communities, and

    b) starts cutting the head, but is replaced (as the camera time signatures change) by someone wearing a white head covering when it's time to show off the head.

    20)
    Video is out of synch soundtrack and jumping time signatures on the video production.

    21)
    For the first time in recorded history, Arab terra'ists post a video of an atrocious murder on a website -- right in the middle of Bush Admin's most damaging national scandal -- a scandal driven completely by its own disgusting pictoral and video imagery.

    22)
    Berg had been held in US custody (or in the Abu Ghraib prison?) for two weeks without charge or access to phones or legal help just days before he was last heard from. And the US now denies this, despite the family's insistence and overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    23)
    Berg was an American Jew traveling alone in Iraq without a job. He reported that he was taking lots of picture around the suburb of Abu Ghraib. He also reportedly worked "on the tower" in Aby Ghraib


    24)
    Ugly yellow paint, orange jumpsuits, and the white plastic "Walmart " -- appear in both the Berg video and the Abu Ghraib prison videos

    25)
    Zaqawi rises from the dead, has a letter fall into coalition hands that just happens to confirm everything BushCo is dreaming about the Iraqi situation, grows another leg, loses his Jordanian accent, puts on a forbidden gold ring, reads from a long speech that he's written in a mysterious mobius fashion across both sides of a single sheet of paper, decides to give up his hobby as a poison expert to get down and dirty with a dull knife, and carefully hides his face while screaming, "Yoo hoo - Zaqawi here!"

    CIA claims it has examined the video and concluded that the hooded
    figure is Zaqrawi, a high level al-Qaeda operative. However, anyone who has
    seen the video will attest to the fact that there is no way to identify
    anyone from it, including the victim. Second, according to an US military
    report in April -03, Zaqrawi was killed in the bombing of Falluja. CIA does
    not elaborate whether Zaqrawi has magically sprung back to life or whether
    the April report was wrong.

    The US media claimed that Zaqrawi lost a leg in 2001. Now, it says
    that he did not lose his leg after all. This flip flop seems too
    coincidental as the purported figure in the video doesn-t appear
    handicapped. The US does not elaborate on which intelligence is wrong.

    Even Colin Powell claimed that Zarqawi was fitted with a prosthetic leg in a Baghdad hospital

    26)
    JackBlood.com has Traced the Address Of 'Islamic Website' that Posted the Berg Decapitation video To London, England, NOT Iraq

    27)
    The Chilean freelance journalist Hugo Infante ...stays at the $30-a-night Al Fanar Hotel, where Berg was staying, and regularly chatted and shared drinks with him.
    According to an own INN Research, there is also someone named Hugo Infante (Bogota, Columbia), but he works at the World Bank and sent some disturbing messages in 2002: "We do not have LEADERSHIP, and the concept of globally
    world is the now, but our leadership is weak because we
    NOW need Globally Leadership."

    28)
    Berg's company Prometheus Towers has no records with the Pennsylvania Department of State

    29)
    When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. They knew he had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing

    30)
    Nicholas Berg's father was listed in a freeper- "hate list"
    On March 7, 2004, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic

    31)
    Berg's body arrived Wednesday at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware. His parents had requested permission to be at the base when the coffin arrived, but that request was denied

    32)
    The voice on the tape could not be verified as that of al-Zarqawi. CNN staff members familiar with al-Zarqawi's voice said the voice on the tape did not sound like him

    33)
    The man on the far left in the video is standing at "Parade Rest"
    This seems further evidence the raises suspicions that these men were NOT Arab faction Terrorists! Parade Rest is also - and would be a REFLEX action - that is TRAINED into Military personnel and becomes a HABIT

    34)
    We see the wedding ring on the left hand, the sinister hand, the hand that Islam reserves for toilet functions

    35)
    We notice the voices in the background not sounding like Arabs, some dialects also linked to russian language, instead of Jordanian

    36)
    Why is Zarquawi not showing his face, given the fact, that his face is worldwide known anyway?

    37)
    Firearms experts have stated the AK-47 carried by one man was a "Gilal." This actually is an Israeli-made weapon that improves on the famous AK- 47. Feyadeen and other insurgents almost universally use AK-47s

    38)
    The US military has stated that Berg was never in US custody and that he had been in custody of the Iraqi police. The Iraqi police adamantly deny he was ever in their custody. On April 1, an e-mail from Beth A. Payne, the U.S. consular officer in Iraq, was sent to the family of Nick Berg. It stated that Ms. Payne had located Nick

    39)
    The Berg's filed a lawsuit in federal court in Philadelphia on April 5. A day later, Nick Berg was released. He contacted his parents and told them that he was coming home. The following day he checked out of his hotel in Baghdad, and disappeared

    40)
    Notice on one frame that Berg's head has been cut off at 13:47:49 (1:47) * yetat 2:44 * nearly "an hour later" * he is sitting with his head intact

    41)
    An NBC reporter stated: "...the CIA did it to take the heat off the Pentagon"--, but his remark wasn't picked up again (at Tom Brokaw, May 12th)

    42)
    One article of BillingsGazette claims, when his body was found, it only mentions "signs of trauma" , instead of "headless". The article claims, the body was found Saturday
    In another report, it says, "a body found on Monday by US military patrol along a roadside over the weekend was identified as Berg's"

    43)
    More odd, if the body was found on Monday (May 10th), or previously "over the weekend" (prior), how could the execution and video be taped on May 11th, as is reported?
    "The statement in the video was signed off with Zarqawi's name and dated 11 May" (Drudge and Aljazeerah).

    44)
    Why did the story of Berg change about his OK-contact with Moussaoui?
    First it was 2001, then already 1999?

    45)
    Michael Berg, told the AP that Michael’s sister, now dead, married an Iraqi man named Mudafer, who became close to Nicholas. In one of the e-mails, Nicholas Berg described going to the northern city of Mosul, where he introduced himself to Mudafer’s brother, identified as Moffak Mustaffa. Who is Mustaffa?

    46)
    Berg has sensitive electronic equipment on his person that he has no paperwork for

    47)
    Berg's hotel was full of peace protestors and next to CIA's "HQ", Baghdad Hotel.
    Was there not enough police surveillance, after he arrived?

    48)
    Again, If Berg was in Iraqi custody, why did the FBI visit him three times, and in what ways did the U.S. authorities have operational control over his custody? Why do the Iraqi police, working with the U.S. government, insist they never held him?

    49)
    Berg met with shady Iraqi Aziz Kadoory Aziz, also known as Aziz al-Taee

    50)
    Berg Video: "Someone with U.S. military cap seen in frame"
    What do you think?......
  2. #2
    Join Date Nov 2003
    Location Cumbria (England)
    Posts 1,046
    Rep Power 18

    Default

    I think the writer has serious literary problems as well as a bad habit of repeating him/her self.
  3. #3
    Join Date Nov 2003
    Location Gulf Breeze, FL
    Posts 124
    Rep Power 17

    Default

    "40)
    Notice on one frame that Berg's head has been cut off at 13:47:49 (1:47) * yetat 2:44 * nearly "an hour later" * he is sitting with his head intact"

    Or, as stated earlier, he was killed eleven hours before. 13-2=11, duh. They should eliminate all useless "facts" and leave the most incriminating evidence if they wish to show.
    "I hope, pray and dream that you shall be maddened beyond endurance by a hundred political speeches, you grudge-festering blackguard."
    - Random Insult Generator
  4. #4
    Join Date Jun 2004
    Location Paterson
    Posts 875
    Rep Power 16

    Default

    Do you think it is possible to actually fake a scream such as the one Mr. Berg made?
    Socialism for a better future.

Similar Threads

  1. Berg Video Camera Exact Same as Abu Ghraib prison
    By Skeptic in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 25th May 2004, 09:54
  2. U.S. Conspiracy & the Nick Berg Murder?
    By Skeptic in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 18th May 2004, 22:05
  3. Did America kill Nic Berg ?
    By JonP in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 16th May 2004, 21:20
  4. Berg
    By j.guevara in forum News & Ongoing Struggles
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 15th May 2004, 03:50

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Tags for this Thread