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    Oh, I simply cannot help advertising this movie a bit.

    Utilitarian primate, Bjørn Lomborg, warns against watching this 'amoral' movie as it 'could scare politicians into using money on climatic improvements' in The Copenhagen Post

    Check out the discussion forum for it at imdb.com - it's flooded (no pun intended) with North American Republicans denying Global Warming, blaming it to be commie propaganda and even defending USA's invasion of Iraq. That last thing is interesting, as that war and Global Warming certainly goes hand in hand!

    Enjoy.

    Too bad the movie itself looks a bit lame...
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    global warming is a farce, and the movie will suck its done by the same idiot who did ID4. The day after tomorrow I'll probally be watching Saved.
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    The movie looks like it will be great, I wouldn't mind checking it out.
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    I have heard of the movie and it sounds crap. However, the ideas presented in it (even if not totaly scientific) are correct. Climate Change is a fact. It is also a fact that it is happening faster then what it would have if humans weren&#39;t around. Part of Climate Change is Global Warming.

    As to what I&#39;m going to do, tommorow I&#39;ld be standing outside the movies handing out flyers about Climate Change. I&#39;ll be talking about what it is and how it affects all of us, and how to slow it down.
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    Originally posted by apathy maybe@May 26 2004, 04:12 AM
    I have heard of the movie and it sounds crap. However, the ideas presented in it (even if not totaly scientific) are correct. Climate Change is a fact. It is also a fact that it is happening faster then what it would have if humans weren&#39;t around. Part of Climate Change is Global Warming.
    This is easy to refute. Experts, such as this one super smart dude truthadict11 stated in a recent post on Che-lives.com that, "global warming is a farce".

    See? &#39;Nuff said.
    &quot;The dogs in Pavlov&#39;s laboratory had been conditioned for hundreds of hours. They were fully trained and domesticated. Then there was a flood in the basement. And you know what happened? They forgot all of their training in the blink of an eye. We should be able to do at least that well. I am staking my life on it...&quot;--John Zerzan
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    Originally posted by CorporationsRule+May 26 2004, 04:08 PM--> (CorporationsRule @ May 26 2004, 04:08 PM)
    apathy maybe
    @May 26 2004, 04:12 AM
    I have heard of the movie and it sounds crap. However, the ideas presented in it (even if not totaly scientific) are correct. Climate Change is a fact. It is also a fact that it is happening faster then what it would have if humans weren&#39;t around. Part of Climate Change is Global Warming.
    This is easy to refute. Experts, such as this one super smart dude truthadict11 stated in a recent post on Che-lives.com that, "global warming is a farce".

    See? &#39;Nuff said. [/b]
    I really want to mod this funny. Why oh why can&#39;t we have a system where people can &#39;score&#39; posts so that I can mod this funny.


    Yes even though there are some people (mainly right-wingers) who don&#39;t believe that humans can influence anything beyond their indervidual reach, scientists have shown that this is incorrect. Some links to do with Climate Change are

    http://www.ipcc.ch
    http://unfccc.int
    http://www.pewclimate.org/ (http://www.pewclimate.org/dayaftertomorrow.cfm)
    http://www.climatechangesolutions.com/
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    Global warming exists, but it&#39;s effect is vastly exaggerated both in this movie and by environmentalists. They fail to mention that ice floating in water (Which is what most of the arctic is) displaces the same amount of liquid as water does. They also fail to mention that we are in an interglacial period, and that there is a distinct possibility of a big freeze coming up. Not only that but it is reckoned that the Earth &#39;flips&#39; to ice ages within a matter of decades, rather than centuries.

    The Earth has spent more time as a freezer or dustbowl than it has as lush green planet.
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    Even though they do vastly exaggerate stuff in this movie, the fact that global warming can cause an ice age IS true, but it would be mainly Europe, not America that would be threatened as if we didn&#39;t have the Gulf Stream we would be living in tundra. Global warming is causing a glacier to melt in Iceland that is filling the Gulf Stream with fresh water, effectively stopping it.
    The last time this current ws cut off, Europe was in an Ice Age for 10,000 years&#33;
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    a paper on how humans have really effected the tempature it is a large paper, 8 pages all by credited scientists. Enviromental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
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    The threat of rising sea levels has nothing to do with the ice around the north pole melting, and that is why it isn&#39;t mentianed (in relation to rising sea levels). The threat comes from the ice on Iceland, Greenland and the Antartic melting. And that is what you should be worried about. (Also I read somewhere that the ice at the north pole had melted for the first time ever (in human records anyway) recently (but this may not be true).)

    some links on melting Arctic (from a variety of sources)
    http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991978
    http://www.ecocities.net/Article328.html
    http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/arkmelts.htm
    http://www.intellectualloafing.com/activit...ftheicecaps.htm
    http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=513
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    I dont think the trailer for the movie did it any favours it came accross as just another disaster movie, but if it scares only a few people into thinking about the enviroment and climate change then its been worthwhile in my opinion
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    Originally posted by apathy maybe@May 27 2004, 11:01 PM
    The threat of rising sea levels has nothing to do with the ice around the north pole melting, and that is why it isn&#39;t mentianed (in relation to rising sea levels). The threat comes from the ice on Iceland, Greenland and the Antartic melting. And that is what you should be worried about. (Also I read somewhere that the ice at the north pole had melted for the first time ever (in human records anyway) recently (but this may not be true).)
    Link Arctic ice primarily just responds to changing wind patterns, thinning in some regions while piling up in others without generally melting. P. Winsor of G¨oteborg University, in Sweden used detailed measurements to conclude in a report published last year, "... there was no trend towards a thinning ice cover during the 1990s. Data from the North Pole shows a slight increase in mean ice thickness, whereas the Beaufort Sea shows a small decrease, none of which are significant."
    It is revealing that actual measurements show conditions in arctic regions to be very different to what our theories predict. For example, Greenland warmed considerably during the 1920s and 1930s long before the recent buildup in greenhouse gases. Since then the temperatures of Greenland coastal stations are decreasing at the rate of 0.2 to 0.3oC per decade (according to Dr. Petr Chylek, professor of physics and atmospheric science at Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, the summer temperatures over the Greenland ice sheet have also been decreasing - in this case at the rate of 2 deg centigrade per decade since 1980&#39;s&#33. So where is the amplified warming of the Arctic? All we are seeing is a shift in regional climate; one part of the Arctic is warming and another is cooling. It is also important to remember that a thousand years ago conditions were so warm that the Vikings were sailing in Arctic waters that are now permanent pack ice.

    Professor Fred Michel, an arctic regions specialist in the Department of Earth Sciences at Carleton University, explains that the problem being experienced by the natives in the north is not due to any unnatural climate change. Instead they are having more difficulty now than in previous generations because they have evolved from a nomadic, hunting society, one which moved as the climate changed, into one that is now staying in one place with fixed buildings highly susceptible to structural problems due to the normal freeze/thaw cycle and natural climate variations.

    Dr. Michel also points out, "… glaciers have retreated but this is not unusual in a global history perspective." He explains that the changes natives have observed in stream flow are generally the normal result of variations in daily temperatures - what was a tranquil stream in the morning can transform, on a sunny day, into an impassable torrent raging down the valley by mid afternoon. By mid evening the flow begins to subside and by midnight the stream is again passable. Dr. Michel concludes, "Things are changing, but man may not be the cause."

    The mammoth west Antarctic ice sheet, which contains enough water to lift the world&#39;s sea levels by about 6 metres, isn&#39;t melting. Instead, its thickening and Antarctica is getting cooler. A new study by researchers from the California Institute of Technology&#39;s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the University of California at Santa Cruz, published in the respected journal Science, found that the ice sheets of Antarctica are expanding by some 26.8 billion tons of ice a year.

    Another study, published in a recent edition of the journal Nature, found that air temperatures measured in Antarctica&#39;s polar desert valleys actually declined by almost 0.4oC from 1986 to 1999. The study&#39;s lead author, limnologist Peter Doran, an expert on the study of fresh water at the University of Illinois at Chicago concludes, "We went into this project with the idea that global warming was going to hit us any time now, and we kept waiting for the warm summers to come and they never came. It just kept getting colder and colder, and that&#39;s the story."
    and I wouldnt worry that much about global flooding the sealevel is only raising 18 cm per century and has only risen 120 meters since the end of the last ice age here is a link
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    Originally posted by truthaddict11@May 25 2004, 11:58 PM
    global warming is a farce, and the movie will suck its done by the same idiot who did ID4. The day after tomorrow I&#39;ll probally be watching Saved.
    In your humble opinion, where as the vast majority of the worlds experts directly contradict your views, with cold hard facts.
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    Originally posted by Enigma+May 28 2004, 12:06 PM--> (Enigma @ May 28 2004, 12:06 PM)
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    @May 25 2004, 11:58 PM
    global warming is a farce, and the movie will suck its done by the same idiot who did ID4. The day after tomorrow I&#39;ll probally be watching Saved.
    In your humble opinion, where as the vast majority of the worlds experts directly contradict your views, with cold hard facts. [/b]
    no they dont, most scientists dont believe in that myth of global warming.
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    im going to watch that tomorrow ... I think that movie will do well over all i do doubt how good it will be but it&#39;s worth watching
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    truth addict, you should change your name to farce addict&#33;

    are you willing to wait another hundred years of polluting the earth to see what changes will occur? It will be too late, we have the technology and scientific evidence now to prove it&#33;

    NASA scientists have acknowledged the fact, environmental scientists have known this for decades now&#33;

    It is not a theory it is a fact&#33; Why do you think that the world came up with the Kyoto Agreement, why has America not accepted it? economically unacceptable, thats why&#33;

    Wake up and smell the Carbon di-oxide baby, its going to be getting a whole lot hotter&#33;
    peace yall
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    wake up and smell science link
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    well the movie is a load of cheese, and has huge gaping polt holes the size of China but it was good as a shut off and enjoy pop-corn film&#33;
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    I loved this movie. It was so intriguing and exciting. And those who claim that global warming is not real are terribly misled. Global warming is real, if we cover it up and ignore it it will get worse. It takes a good movie like this to make people realize what they are doing to the Earth.
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