Transportation and Oil: In Practice

[pandora]

How much do you drive? What's your personal thirst for oil [outside of food sources or products produced by.]
Do you practice what ya preach :P
Or is "Die for Oil Sucka so I can fill my SUV!" Your model
Please note I'm not including airline trips before all you bikers get self righteous

[New Tolerance]

Long live the bicycle, the greatest transportation invention ever...

- Seriously though, I picked up my bicycle 9 years ago at a waste dump (by that time it's probably already 10+ years old, since it's in the waste dump) and it still works. (holy cow, my bike is older than I am)

- there's no expensive maintaince or fuel needed, and it gives you access to most parts of a medium sized city in at most 1.5 hours (with all the traffic jams in major cities now days, it is probably faster to ride a bike than to drive a car).

- Further more it takes less space, you don't need a parking space for it (reducing the labour and polluting resources needed to build parking lots)

- If you get hit by a car, you die. If you get by a bike, you probably won't.

- Kids can use them, you have to be over 16 to drive. But you don't have to be 16 to ride a bike. (Instead of having to wait for their parents to get them to places)

[truthaddict11]

i love my car much better then when i had a bicycle, its a Buick Century :P

[canikickit]

I walk everywhere. Bicycles are incredibly bourgeois, and don't get me started on tricycles!

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I use a bicycle to get to work and for general transportation.

I can't afford a car.

[pedro san pedro]

i use bike and public transport - i have too move across too much of sydney for soley bike.

also use cars on long long distance - road trips - and for activism

i ran a bike libary for a while - really good way of promoting bikes. we just got old bikes donated, frankenstiened them, and rented them out for a couple of bucks a month.

how you feel about unicycles cani? they for the petit bourgeois?
roller blades for the upper middle class?

[pandora]

Originally posted by canikickit@May 19 2004, 06:49 AM
I walk everywhere. Bicycles are incredibly bourgeois, and don't get me started on tricycles!

I apologize I should have included a seperate category, walk only bicycles are too bougeois, of course you could steal a rich person's Cannondale from where ever they ride it of ever.
I won't condone that though as a Buddhist Socialist :P bad karma
Still if the bad karma for stealing is poverty and you are a true Marxist then the repercussion for stealing is greater empowerment :P

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I actualy have a tricycle in the trunk of my car.
I use public transportation when i can. Drive otherwise. And ride my tricycle when I'm only going somewhere within the city limits of my town, or to the movie theater. I don't live within the city limits, by the way. The city limits include the school, grocery store, Indy movie theater, rec center, library, a few restaurants, and a few friend's houses. The mainstream movie theater, my house, the beach, and most of my friends live outside the city limits. A large stretch of federal forrest seperates the part of town within the city limits and the rest of town. Everything in the part of town outside the city limits is incredibly spread out, so I can't ride my trike.

[pandora]

That's the problem with living in the country.
I lived in the desert without a car and hitchhiked or rode my bike miles.
It's hard. I did it for poverty reasons, being in New Mexico I would get chased in the morning by mean pit bulls that escaped, but learned if you swerve quickly [but carefully, you don't want to get noshed] they trip and fumble over their fat little legs
Zep Do you live on a farm? Or produce some of your own food?

[cubist]

i don't drive i car share with three other people

[pandora]

Wow lots of bicyclists on the site, very cool, I didn't expect that.

[Tiki Man]

I actually recently developed an idea to have a parking lot and bike rack at the entrance to a neighborhood to promote biking in the neighborhood. Bikes are a good thing. We could melt down every personal car on earth and have ten bikes for every person on earth.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by pandora@May 20 2004, 12:40 AM
Zep Do you live on a farm? Or produce some of your own food?

no, just a suburb of Pensacola... you may ahve heard of it.

[apathy maybe]

While I think this is turning into a chitchat thread, the basic idea of transportation and oil is very important.

Look at how much oil ships and planes use. Think of the savings if Clippers (sail boats that go really fast) were reintroduced on busy routes.

The main use of oil is transportation. If we reduce the need for oil in transportation, we lengthen the time before it all runs out, enabling us to find and use alternatives.

I haven't got the stat's avaliable right now but planes use more oil then needed by flying either too high or too low. The also dump fuel in the sea. Ships are also really screwing, they waste so much oil.

[truthaddict11]

Look at how much oil ships and planes use. Think of the savings if Clippers (sail boats that go really fast) were reintroduced on busy routes

can you find another way to move megaton barges?

[pandora]

Originally posted by apathy maybe@May 23 2004, 12:27 PM

I haven't got the stat's avaliable right now but planes use more oil then needed by flying either too high or too low. The also dump fuel in the sea. Ships are also really screwing, they waste so much oil.

I agree on planes, which is why many of whom who do not drive, need not boast, as they may go on vacation more than someone with a car.

The stats on planes are difficult to ascertain anyway. But one of the best clues is to look at how the atmosphere was affected positively by the halt of flights following 9/11. I've heard figures on how air quality improved, but am unsure where to get them. Does anyone know?

[DaCuBaN]

I live approximately 30 miles outside of where I work, and the public transportation system (which I used for my old job) is totall unsuitable to my shift based work. Buses run to the city I work in from 7:15am every 30 minutes until 11:15pm. Pity I work from 7am until 7pm and vice versa

That said, you'd have to wrestle my socialist built Saab from me before I'd give it up

Compared to most american cars it's very efficient - I get about 32mpg (which for a Saab is phenomenal btw - average is abour 25mpg) as I drive like a snail half the time.

Oil consumption is becoming a problem but is delaying the inevitable really worthwhile? When put in a stressful situation it's generally accepted that people can excel. The oil crisis that will eventually be upon us will be a true test of this.

So I say, bring it on

[pandora]

HOw do people feel about Bush's pal the Prince of Saudi Arabia increasing oil production 2 million barrels a day to lower gas prices $4-$5 a barrel prior to the election to support the election, he ticked off all of OPEC

[pandora]

Check this out! pie chart on the poll results. Unfortunately you have to open it.
Oh what do you know I reached 300 :P he he he! here I come!