Islam is a religion not a race, dickhead.
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Kiss's Gene Simmons has made some outrageous, and downright racist claims against the Islamic community on Melbourne radio. Kiss are on tour in Australia at the moment, and as we speak the Islamic community and other humanitarian groups are organising protests and boycots in relation to Mr. Simmons' claims.
On a personal note, I ask you all in light of this to let Mr. Simmons and kiss know that racism will not be tolerated, not even among celebraties!
Comrade BNS
Islam is a religion not a race, dickhead.
Sometimes racism is defined as being prejudice towards race, nationality, religion or ethnicity.
There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror... --- Mark Twain
the guy is an ignorant dipshit.
Israelis must abandon the myth that it is possible to have peace and occupation at the same time, that peaceful coexistence is possible between slave and master -- Marwan Barghouti
What will Peter Griffin say??
EDIT: OK I've read the story and from what's quoted there, the only innaccuracy would be that he is tarring all of Islam with the same brush. I'd say that, broadly speaking, he has a point. Islam does have a backwards view towards women and fundamentalist Islam is a "vile culture". Granted much of what he says is applicable to the west as well, but what kinda fucking left winger stands up for religious bullshit and misogyny like this??
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Who wants to see KISS anyway?
It doesn't matter whether Islam is a religion or a race. What's important is that the true dickhead here is the one who made comments against Islam.
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As Gene Simmons is Jewish, this really doesen't surprise me. The difference between them and Arabs and/or Moslems, or even Christians, is that if they made such comments they would be labeled as anti-Semitic.
Just a note, most Arabs are able to distinguish between being anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic.
LOL!!
"What kind of (sic) left winger stands up for religious bullshit and misogny like this"?
ermm...one who stands for tolerance and acceptance of all worldviews and outlooks!
Sorry I really shouldn't be challenging an obviously distinguished Islamic social commentator/scholar such as yourself. You have blatantly displayed your obvious flair and razor sharp perception in this field!
"Islam does have a backward(sic) view towards women..."
oh it does, does it? So how can it be that Thousands of "muslim" women live in perfect equality with their male counterparts the world over? oh sorry did you only study Michael Moore's "Islam for the ignorant, by the ignorant" guide to this beautiful and profound culture?
why not check the facts, before you trot out your dogmatic, blind, marxist catch-crys!
Comrade BNS
and why is it that pakistan had a female prime minister
Exactly! in light of alot of people's ignorances/predjudices regarding Islam, I direct you to read some of my posts in "behaeding of US man" in the politics thread.
or even just read some decent literature on the subject
"a guide to Islam" by Ziauddin Sardar
"Islam, a thousand years of faith and power" Jonathon Bloom, Sheila Blair
You can point to exceptions and precedents, and I'm not claiming that every Muslim has an unenlightened attitude towards the female of the spieces, but an overview of the entire "culture" and religion leads me to claim that on the whole, Islam does not treat women in a way that I (and any left winger) would deem appropriate. There are more obvious examples, such as the horrific treatment women receive in Palestine (yeah, that's right, many of the darlings of the left won't let their wives [all six of them] leave the house and would beat them to death for doing so), Taliban Afghanistan ("shit dude, you can see that woman's eyebrows!! Shoot the fucker!!"), modern Iraq (you're a girl and you get raped?? How dare disgrace the family's honour...killing time for you honey), northern Nigeria (that whore got pregnant...better stone her to death), Iran (better not talk to a guy outside your direct family there - that's a capital crime) etc etc...but the truth is, there are more obvious, if less tragic, examples all around us.
Do you, as a left winger, find it tolerable when you see a woman clad head to toe in robes disguising their very being?? I sure as fuck don't find sexist bullshit like that commendable. However, whenever I see someone like that, it just reminds me that she's probably relatively lucky: what about the millions of women whose husbands won't let them outside the kitchen in the name of "religion"?? Fuck that shit...remind me of the place in any leftist ideology where I have to "respect" and "tolerate" misogyny.
In fact, remind me of where in leftism I am supposed to "tolerate all worldviews". Am I supposed to tolerate fascism?? How about capitalism?? And is racism cool?? It exists after all, which seems to be your only criterion for accepting it. Wake the fuck dude...this shit is about changing the world for the better, not accepting shit that is full out wrong.
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I guess the poor dumbass (Gene, not RAF) doesn't realize that only 20% of Muslems are Arabs. Malaysia and south-east Asia are the most heavilly-populated Islamic nations in the world. Of course, old Gene probably doesn't realize anything about the Umma and is unaware of all Muslems.
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Of course this is nothing new. Simmons has been saying stuff like this for a long time
I wonder what Paul Stanley has to say about the Moslem and/or Arab world.
Imagine that, someone being against a religion that tells you to kill everyone who isn't a Muslim. I'm shocked, really. And yes, it does say that in the Koran.
I didn't read what the guy said, and I don't care. I really don't get what is offensive about being anti religous. Religion is a danger to society. Be spiritual all you want, but Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all very dangerous.
clearly, though, Simmons is more anti-Arab than anti-Islam.
Resist Much. Obey Little
-Walt Whitman
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Some rob you with a six-gun, some with a fountain pen
As through this life you ramble, as through this life you roam
You'll never see an outlaw take a family from their home"
-from Pretty Boy Floyd
(W. Guthrie)</span>
He has also said some other...bizarre things such as "Rock & roll is about aggressive vocal prowess and sounding like a bull, and sorry--cows don't sound like bulls. The very phrase "rock and roll" came from old black musicians down in Mississippi and means fuck; the actual definition of rock & roll is fucking. "Let me rock & roll you"! all night long"--guess what he's talking about! So if people accuse me of being sexist, I say, "Thank you," because that's being true to the form" Gene about the difference of men and women in rock. He is a well known sexist as well but now he cares about womens rights, because Arabs are involved it seems like
and
"If you don't have the guts to stand up to injustice, where ever it exists (and that means stopping the Germans, the Japanese and the Italians in WWI and WWII ... or the Albanian Serbs in Bosnia ... or the tragedies that keep on occurring in Africa ... or even the Viet Nam War ... Panama ... North Korea ... the list goes on and on) ... One thing in common with all these events: AMERICA. America didn't stay and 'conquer' ANY OF THESE COUNTRIES." "The answer to any doubters lies in watching Iraq's people dancing in the streets." about the Iraq war, it's strange how he cares about Arabs when America is "liberating" them.
It's one thing too critics human rights records of Islamic countries but he is basically saying there, that those vile Muslims are going to invade the west and steal our land, so we must attack them now. That's being more than anti-religious in my mind. In Australia, there has been increased violence on the Muslim population. These comments just perpetuate, the us versus them mentality we have here, us good Christians, versus bad Muslims and why our government is allowed too get away with blantly racist immigration policies.
I am not for any religion but I don't think that any person should have too be subject too abuse, physical or verbal, while walking down the street, because of their religion.
Relax kid.
Why is that? Islam, like every other religion, is a pathetic mythical ideology designed to keep the slaves happily residing under their masters.
That "tolerant" person will also never be considered a socialist or communist. Why exactly should we be "tolerant" of Islam anyway? Because you have some misguided connection with it?
We will never "tolerate" Islam or any other religion. On the contrary, we will do our very best to suppress it and subsequently abolish it.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein
The guy sounds like a total ****. But the fact that people are only picking up him dissing Islam is ridiculous.
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