To bad I dont live or have the money to go to Berlin,if i had i would help the Anti-Facists.
I dont get it,its the same thing in Sweden.The police is protecting the nazis on every demonstration :angry:
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Hard to say this time. Normally the fascist marches have only a few hundeds if taking part, sometimes even less than 100. The problem about this small marches are is that they are happening nearly weekly in different places. In Berlin I'm expecting a few thoasands fascists thogh, and also more than 1000 anti-fascists. But it's really hard to estiminate, I'llkeep you updated about the Berlin march.
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To bad I dont live or have the money to go to Berlin,if i had i would help the Anti-Facists.
I dont get it,its the same thing in Sweden.The police is protecting the nazis on every demonstration :angry:
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You folks demanding free speech for nazis are disturbingly ridiculous. We should not tolerate these facsist at all. Socialism equally grants power to all members of society, anybody who wants to take that away obviously has the intetrests of concentrating power, correct? That is not tolerable. There is no room in socialist or democratic politics for people who refuse to share power among their ethnically diverse comrades.
Good luck to you, Malte.
My question is why doesn't the police just jail every single nazi demonstrator?
I agree; You cannot "tolerate," the formation of Nazi power any more than you can "tolerate," a gun pointed at your head.
The declaration of the Nazi ideology, is the declaration of (fascism) intent to oppress by force. This intent is itself a threat to freedom, threats are illegal even under currents laws. You cannot have a free society where oppressive ideologies are allowed to throw their weight around.
The fascist demonstrators should be jailed. I am for "free speach," as long as nazi scum are locked up for thier ideological crime against humanity. In the case that this system fails, NAZIS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ASSEMBLE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTROLLING AND KILLING US ALL!
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I say throw shit at their heads now then having them use scare tactic to control a nation and have to fire bullets at them. You idiot wenty.
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Those damn fascists. Who do the think they are? It's bad enough I have to deal with the christen fascists in America (The christen fascist states of America) with the there christen fascist leader George W. Bush, and now the neo Nazi trash (who hasten learned from WW2) is trying to start up fascism again. Trust me if that happens, there are so suffering people in Russia and the former soviet republics still, that if we all pull together (the world Marxists) We could bring a new Marxist government to the former soviet republics and unite them once again to fight fascism and the christen fascist leaders of the west!!! We also the Allies of WW2 should have finished the job of eliminating fascism from Europe by defeating Franco after Hitler and before defeating the Japanese!!!
We on the Left are better both morally and intellectually than the Nazis. We should allow them to vomit out their shite and show that we are so much better than they are. Freedom of speech is an important thing, an we should allow even the most disgusting right-wing scum to have it.
Malte, isnt Nazism illegal in Germany?
I'll respect their freedom to be racist fuckwits when they respect my freedom to beat them to death.
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Nazis may be brainless slugs, but we cannot drag ourselves down to their level. We are so much better than these idiots who split the human race into groups based on superficial differences.
To become in any way like them is to be an hypocrite.
Xphile. please read our arguments provided in this thread, and learn.
"The proletariat, when it seizes power [...] should and must at once undertake socialist measures in the most energetic, unyielding and unhesitant fashion, in other words, exercise a dictatorship, but a dictatorship of the CLASS, not of a party or of a clique -- dictatorship of the class, that means in the broadest possible form on the basis of the most active, unlimited participation of the mass of the people, of unlimited democracy." - Rosa Luxemburg
"An Rhein und Ruhr marschieren wir. / Für unsere Freiheit kämpfen wir! / Den Streifendienst, schlagt ihn entzwei! / Edelweiß marschiert – Achtung – die Straße frei!"
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Wenty and i have similar views on this issue.
I hate Nazis and the right-wing. I detest their evil little beliefs and see them as dirty scum, and after re-reading this thread i feel that my view may be a little too lenient on them.
You seem to back up the view that their views are criminal and should be repressed well. I suppose that these people dont really deserve the freedom of speech many other people enjoy and employ.
But wouldnt it be a little hypocritical if we wanted their views abnned and then protest if they try to the same thing to us?
I'm no nazi-supporter or a right-winger. I am a Communist and will be until the last drop of red blood in my body dries up and my bones crumble into dust.
