i have not watched it (yet). But i know the British policies were biased and they tried covering it up.
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it was an amazing piece of TV on how british paras murdered unarmed civilans in derry,it was fucking brutal
\'\'What passing bells for those who die as cattle.Only a monsterous anger of the guns\'\'-Wilfred Owen--------------------\'\'Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable and to give an appearane of soliditry to wind\'\'-Geor
i have not watched it (yet). But i know the British policies were biased and they tried covering it up.
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it was great, I watched it with my brother and he was impressed too. These programmes, let Irish nationalists know that there is commitment to the peace process.
Politically, it is a better sign of the times.
Man's dearest possession is life, and since it is given to him to live but once.He must so live that dying he can say, all my life and all my strength have been given to the greatest cause in the world, the liberation of mankind
Ostrovski
Muriel Spark:
If I had my life to live over again I should form the habit of nightly composing myself to thoughts of death. I would practice, as it were, the remembrance of death. There is no other practice which so intensifies life. Death, when it approaches, ought not to take one by surprise. It should be part of the full expectancy of life. Without an ever-present sense of death life is insipid. You might as well live on the whites of eggs.
Great programme - James Nesbitt really got into the part.
\"After all is said and done, a lot more will be said than done.\"\"Life is a succession of moments. To live each moment fully is to truly live life\"\"The greatest use for a man\'s life, is to use it to build something that will outlast him\"
yeah powerful-being irish myself i got very pissed off
\'\'What passing bells for those who die as cattle.Only a monsterous anger of the guns\'\'-Wilfred Owen--------------------\'\'Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable and to give an appearane of soliditry to wind\'\'-Geor
I'm as English as you get - so we're enemies!!
The whole thing is a mess - so much blood over something so stupid. English/Irish RC/CofE- we're all flesh and blood. IMHO N.Ireland should be made a separate state - independant from both Britain and Eire. It's the only way.
\"After all is said and done, a lot more will be said than done.\"\"Life is a succession of moments. To live each moment fully is to truly live life\"\"The greatest use for a man\'s life, is to use it to build something that will outlast him\"
Next Monday at 9.00 on Ch4. "Sunday" a personal account of it. Looks good.
\"After all is said and done, a lot more will be said than done.\"\"Life is a succession of moments. To live each moment fully is to truly live life\"\"The greatest use for a man\'s life, is to use it to build something that will outlast him\"
Bloody British can never keep their fingers off the triggers when it involves the Irish Catholics. It was the most shameless act in the irish problem in modern days. It was a peaceful demonstration in which the minroty recked it. Thers only one answer to the Irish prblem and thats give Northern ireland back. Why keep it? Its the same other their colonies like Gibrlater and the Falklands why keep them they hve no real importance. Thats the British thinking they are the position to influenc ethe World when America over took them along time ago.
Life must be lived forwards but can only be understood backwards.
Why keep it?
[yawn] Because 1/2 of the population wants to remain as part of Britain. Duh! Same as in the Falklands. The people WANT to be part of GB. Isn't that the idea. Every group of people should have the right to a choice of Govt.
Sinn Fein my ass. Terrorism against an innocent population is unacceptable - whatever the cause. How about getting a bit of neutral perspective and impartial knowledge.
\"After all is said and done, a lot more will be said than done.\"\"Life is a succession of moments. To live each moment fully is to truly live life\"\"The greatest use for a man\'s life, is to use it to build something that will outlast him\"
Another boring brit. How about britain taking historical taking resposibility for creating the artificial division.
Which was build on apartheid with second class citizens.
Built on gerry mandering and playing the orange card in working class srtruggles. It is an artificial statelet and should be abolished along with your left wing credentials
(Edited by peaccenicked at 9:46 pm on Jan. 22, 2002)
Man's dearest possession is life, and since it is given to him to live but once.He must so live that dying he can say, all my life and all my strength have been given to the greatest cause in the world, the liberation of mankind
Ostrovski
Muriel Spark:
If I had my life to live over again I should form the habit of nightly composing myself to thoughts of death. I would practice, as it were, the remembrance of death. There is no other practice which so intensifies life. Death, when it approaches, ought not to take one by surprise. It should be part of the full expectancy of life. Without an ever-present sense of death life is insipid. You might as well live on the whites of eggs.
in relation 2 your post, the bloody sunday march was not about the IRA- it was CIVIL RIGHTS. the Irish catholic population (which was about 40% of the population) had no representation on Stormont!!! The protestants had an armed milita (Brits go on about IRA decommisioning- theres 200,000 legally held guns in northern ireland- not 2 mention all those left over after the B-Specials and UDR)
The loyalist people r beginning to explore thier own culture (due 2 the erosion of thier "Protestant state for Proestant ppl (Carson- what northern ireland was sworn in as)"), they r beginning to think that they were always there- back to Cuchlainn- an irish myth about a ulster fighter who defended ulster fom southern armies- who loyalists claim was the first UDA man! this i clearly unrealistic, as the place where cuchlainn is said to b from (the Gap of the north- SOUTH ARMAGH- is fiercely republican and catholic. if these inhabitants were Picts (the branch of celts in northern ulster-western scotland) why where they so independant when the planters came?
some claim the IRA is nothing more than murderin scum. Accepted. Many repulicans i know are fenian bigots. But is it the IRA killing postal workers? No. Why? thier leadership. Gerry Adams and Marty and Gerry Kelly all know what can happen- Gerry Adams was interned, beat black and blue by Brits and was nearly killed by UFF squad which the Brits knew about; Gerry Kelly (who was a teenager when arrested in London) was on hunger strike for three years in a British prison- he was force fed
Our revenge will be the laughter of our children
wtf?
why should we take responsibility for what historically happened?
it wasnt ME who shot anyone...
ffs, so NI was an artificially created statelet? if you had any left wing credentials you would know that all states are artificially created nonsenses, with arbitrarily set boundaries, and if anyone who was fighting to get northern ireland back had any left wing credentials, they would stop killing their proletariat brethren, and start trying to bring in some fucking socialist reforms!
pfft, it's all petty tribalism, national boundaries this, religion that... picts? WHAT THE FUCK HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING? where do the ancient scotti, picti and other celtic tribes actually come into it? it is all a load of irrelevant shit that clouds the minds of peope that should be fighting FOR THE WORKERS not NATIONS which dont really exist except in our fuckign minds...
It might help if you took som historical responsibility for letting British government tell lies over lies about the irish situation. You have swalled them shamelessly and are repeating them like a bbc prat.
(Edited by peaccenicked at 9:53 pm on Jan. 22, 2002)
Man's dearest possession is life, and since it is given to him to live but once.He must so live that dying he can say, all my life and all my strength have been given to the greatest cause in the world, the liberation of mankind
Ostrovski
Muriel Spark:
If I had my life to live over again I should form the habit of nightly composing myself to thoughts of death. I would practice, as it were, the remembrance of death. There is no other practice which so intensifies life. Death, when it approaches, ought not to take one by surprise. It should be part of the full expectancy of life. Without an ever-present sense of death life is insipid. You might as well live on the whites of eggs.
There is no such valid thing as historical responsibility. The sins of the fathers? they can go fuck themselves. I didnt pull the trigger, and i am not sitting in apathy.
I do more to fight for the irish by moving forward the international communist cause than any IRA or sin fein man has ever done by propogating bullshit about how important that six counties bullshit is. Nations dont matter. National boundaries dont matter. International solidarity of the workers fuckign revolution.
Yet another example of British Imperialism, fucking over the people, india, ireland who else?
comrade kamo
The irish were exploited by the brits in the plantations
LONG LIVE SINN FEIN, ALL OVER THE WORLD!
....until the international takes over
nationalism beats imperialism, which are both smashed by internationalism
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nationalism IS Imperialism
Sinn fein ARE imperialistic..
they want to conquer the rightful lands of their people?
wtf did hitler bang on about? conquering the rightful lands of his people...
like austria, and parts of czechoslovakia...
all that poland shit was an after thought after he got succesful
THE SINN FEIN AND IRA ARE NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS
anyone know what NAZI stands for? NATIONALIST SOCIALIST
disassociate yourself from these fascist bastards, they are NOT comrades...
commie bastard is using British disinformation tactics to undermine the just struggle for self determination for the irish people in support of a reactionary statelet which has a history of oppressing the catholic community ruthlessly.
Man's dearest possession is life, and since it is given to him to live but once.He must so live that dying he can say, all my life and all my strength have been given to the greatest cause in the world, the liberation of mankind
Ostrovski
Muriel Spark:
If I had my life to live over again I should form the habit of nightly composing myself to thoughts of death. I would practice, as it were, the remembrance of death. There is no other practice which so intensifies life. Death, when it approaches, ought not to take one by surprise. It should be part of the full expectancy of life. Without an ever-present sense of death life is insipid. You might as well live on the whites of eggs.
Terminal Frost- the British govt would b very happy to give up Northenr ireland.
Why? Money.
The IRA is the most capable guerilla army in western europe- bombs on the mainland UK were few and fa between, but in the 90's most costs £100millions. From the period of 1972-79, it was costing the bristish govt £5.5 a minute to stay in northern ireland.
in relation 2 commie bastard, irish republican socialists believe achieveing social equality in ireland would best b achieved in a united country. SinnFein is completing in the upcoming elections in the free state, and Fine Gael (THE republican party) and labour (so-called left wing) are pissing themselves with fear. Gerry Adams has a great Knowledge of the teaching of James Conolly, and time and time agin refers to "a country only bein as rich as its poorest ppl" SF is pro-public transport, anti-Nice Treaty, and its recent Cuban visit was done to keep GRASSROOT repubicans happy- even though at the exspense of US support
secondary, it ain't all the IRAs fault. Numerous times in he trouble loyalist paramilitaries out-killed the IRA 2:1. When the IRA declared a ceasefire in the mid-70s, loyalists went mad.
i have no problem with english people. its thier sometimes calvier attitude- all the 'thick paddy' jokes and the 'good old boys of the regiment'
never forget when the rest of western europe was at war, the irish had monestaries, educating. Indeed a kingdom on mainland europe was not considered civilized unless it had a scolar from an irish monestary...
Our revenge will be the laughter of our children
the highest form of capitalism IS imperialism
they are not fascists,they are our comrades, unlike Hitler, these are actually their lands, and theres too keep, not british .
the loyalists are the fascists
comrade kamo
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