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    I admit it... I'm ignorant when it comes to this 'natural herb', so here's my stance: I tend to look down on those who smoke the herb repeatedly. You hear all sorts of convinient propoganda by all the drug users but what's the outcome of smoking so much herb? Are there pros and cons? If so... which one outweighs the other?

    I dunno about the rest of youse, but all the people I know who smoke bud... are retarded, more now than ever before.

    So... defend your ground pot heads! Seriously, please help me understand why this drug is being accepted and why I should/should not have a problem with it. To each his/her own I always say, I just want to start a dialogue.

    side note: I have smoked marijuana half a dozen times before and I don't remember ever experiencing induced euphoria. I usually threw up or fell asleep within minutes
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    hey,

    I smoked pot for some thing like 1 years every day all day, and your right i doesnt produce a sensation of euforia. But what it does do is cloud your mind and put in a sort of semi dormente state. Thats why pot smokers are all "peace and love" =). Now the good thing about it is that there is no fisiological adcition so with this drug you can really stop anytime you want.

    Finaly i stoped smoking because i wanted my mind back, and i have to say it was an excelent trade off. It was good for a laugh though. As an experiment i think its ok, but you`ll quickly get feed up with it. The best thing for me was never the way it "hit" you, the way you got "high" in other words. What i liked most was that thick smoke, taste and smell. But... I`d rather have my mind thank you very much =). hope this helped.
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    I think it's bad myself, I smoked daily for 5 years, my father has smoked daily for the last 20 something years.
    It does take your mind from you.
    It's the best damn hangover cure I've ever had though, one toke and it's gone.

    I just think it keeps you chained into the system and kinda pacified. Also it's used as an escape from a life you dislike whereas I think you should be trying to make things better.

    But each to there own, if you like it that's cool most of my friends smoke.
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    Thanks for the replies boys. I guess what I'm trying to find out here is whether I have a justified reason to dislike the drug and those who partake in smoking it often. I associate the herb with negativity, not positivity. The fact of the matter remains, I have lots of learning to do, yet I have strong views opposing the use of marijuana, understand?

    anymore insight?
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    Got into it about a year ago, its great... just not perfect. Nothing can "take all your troubles away". As long as you do it on occasion and not twice a day, it's great. Right now I'm smoking about twice a month, none of the short term memory problems I had when I was doing it twice a week and I feel that I'm doing it, not being controlled by it. If you do it, go ahead, if not... just don't try to stop others. Understand them, they are just human beings. You have tor remember it's no more harmful than alcohol, so there's no reason to look down upon anyone.
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    Let's look at it this way:

    In the replies from the boys, replace pot with booze and see how it reads.

    The thing is, any drug can be abused. Some drugs are more easily abused than others. I don't think that anyone but a fool would say that smoking dope every day is a good idea, and I don't think that anyone but a fool would say that getting drunk everyday is a good idea.

    Fact is, due in part to it's illegal status, those who smoke dope are more likely to be habitual users, for the many who might like getting high once in a while either don't talk about it or don't do it, feeling that the price of getting caught is too high (and, of course, because it's illegal, one must consort with a, by definition, criminal element, which is anopther material condition to consider).

    Rather than judge the effect of dope, perhaps we need to look at the culture in which dope-smoking is taking place.

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    I'm by no means an expert on the subject but the area I grew up in and the high school I attended had plenty of drunks and dope heads, so I think I have some insight into what it does. One thing I noticed was that the kids who were a bit younger than me, say in grade 9 when i was in grade 10, as the years progressed I noticed their intelligence fading. In the early years I knew them u could have a decent conversation with them, they were aware, etc. In my last few years of school I noticed these same kids kind of drift away. They had nothing to say anymore and their whole life revolved around pot. It was really clear that due to weed their intelligence faded dramatically. Thats the negative side, on an almost unreal side, 2 of my good friends at college are pot heads. They do it everyday and more than once. They are 2 of the smartest guys ive known, but i do notice that while i exceed in certain areas they have a slightly more difficult time comprehending some things. From a physchological perspective pot has beeen proven to have side effects, it eats away at brain cells in your brain which are needed. It cuts off, I beleive, the amount of dopamine(no not pot, lol) that flows to your brain to keep it up. Overall its not a bad thing as long as its done in moderation. The same terrible effects can be seen from drinking everyday, no different. Alcohol kills brain cells and ive met quite a few individuals who are just lost because of the amount they drink. Maybe smoking once a week aint bad, perhaps even a bit more, but everyday is not a good thing. peace.
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    Hey comrades,

    I am a regular MJ smoker eater. I have seen it's effects on people. One example, I had this friend with a severe mood problem. He was stressy all the time and now after 6 months of regular MJ, he is alright!!

    Now for me it is different. I achieved the highest grades in my year, without trying. No homework, no revision, etc. Now even with all that MJ it hasn't made me dumb....maybe a better person to talk to........

    Think, Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?

    Legalize all drugs worldwide!
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    Don't believe the corporate lies.
    The reason it is illegal is that it has 25,000 industrial uses. Petrol, paper, clothes, make up, etc etc.
    An alternative to oil? Not in Shell's lifetime.
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    I dont encourage the leafy stuff with young kids, but some of the young kids i met up with smoke it with their family so they start really young they need it to maintain otherwise they get really destructive and anxious. and your right it wont help you in school at all.

    once your an adult i think its use has a different effect. it acts more like a tranquilizer. but abusing anything that produces a "positive" reaction (pleasure) to the brain eventually fades out and produces a negative reaction. now there have been studies that the brain actually has receptors for the main ingredient in pot (THC) but since it is a fat soluable the body cant handle it appropriately if used daily.

    When my mother was dying of cancer she was give the drug to give her an appetite.

    once you become an adult i think drug use is a personal issue. once your drug use influences your family, and society then its a matter for the public if it gets really outrageous.

    the best "high" is produced by the body through exercise.
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    i smoke weed nearly every friday all though i know it's killing my brain i still think it's worth it,but i have to watch myself a bit because i had way too much of it last friday and nearly killed me,but i think it's worth it
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    The reason I stopped was the paranoia.
    I think I was on the verge of schizophrenia, seriously, I was too paranoid to answer the phone one day, that was the last time I smoked the stuff.
    But that was from abuse not use.

    As far as booze goes I think its actually worse for you all around but I do drink, only mildly however.
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    I smoked for the first time when I was 11 and couldn't handle it, and my parents smelled it and since they were hippies they knew what it was. They told me if I broke any law it should be vandalism. I was the best female grafitti artist in the school, and they were proud even though they'd never admit it.
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    Smoking it will give you almost as bad respitory problems as smoking cigarettes.
    That's why you should ingest it, and ingesting it gives a more powerful effect anyway. There are all kinds of recipes you can use, and any meal is spiced up by a liberal dosage of weed : )
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    I used to smoke a lot few years ago.I just love those days..I was really stoned,but I thought I was sober all the time.So I was smoking a lot.
    Last time I smoked was a month ago though I've got some weed in my house.The reason is that I'm working in a bar and drink a lot of alcohol.
    I suppose that alcohol really makes a man stupid,I mean it locks your brain.I will always say legalize the weed.Every man should be free to decide what he wants to do with his own body .Others like it and others don't.

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    I think it's funny that having weed illegal is such a socialist idea and yet 99% of socialists are for it and 99% of republicans are agaisnt it.
    Weed is great i stand by it 100%.
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    Quote: from Che Jexster on 4:27 am on Jan. 18, 2002
    I think it's funny that having weed illegal is such a socialist idea
    Since when? I mean, I know that libertarians have adapted it once in a while to get younger folk to join them, but I didn't know that Karl Marx was anti-reefer. Hmm . . . I also heard that Che was either hitting the pipe or stuffing those cigars of his with something other than tobacco leaves.

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    To put it in simplest form: I was right. Great! Good job, fellas...




    This inducing of euphoria... I strongly believe we can obtain, without making ourselves retarded =)
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    Quote: from Breast Pump on 5:41 am on Jan. 19, 2002
    To put it in simplest form: I was right.
    You're quite right, although there's nothing in the world like watching Dr. Strangelove while you're high.
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    The following quote is from the 1963 movie, "Doctor Strangelove" also known as, "How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb."

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!
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    That's by far one of my all time favorite classic movies...

    I laugh my ass off every time I watch it... the president calling the soviet premier to say, oops we made a mistake and lauched a nuclear strike against your countery... sorry about that... lol...
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