Would anyone like any crab?
Well it's rather obvious what they should do; catch as many of the bastards as they can and eat them.
Some overfishing may be in order here.
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Stalin's last army - hordes of gigantic crabs on their way to invade Europe
By Julius Strauss in Kirkenes, northern Norway
(Filed: 28/02/2004)
Millions of giant Pacific crabs, whose ancestors were brought to Europe by Joseph Stalin in the 1930s, are marching south along Norway's coast, devouring everything in their path.
The monster crabs, which can weigh up to 25lb and have a claw-span of more than three feet, are proving so resilient that scientists fear they could end up as far south as Gibraltar.
Energised by a mysterious population explosion a decade ago, whole armies of the crustaceans - known as the Kamchatka or Red King Crabs - have already advanced about 400 miles along the roof of Europe, overwhelming the ports of northern Norway.
They now number more than 10 million and have reached the Lofoten Islands off north-west Scandinavia, leaving in their wake what one expert described as "an underwater desert".
In a graphic display of the extent of the crab's submarine domination, some photographs of the ocean floor in Kirkenes in northern Norway show a writhing mass of the ugly, spiny animals.
Northern clams and other shellfish, once so numerous that divers could scoop up handfuls, have been all but eliminated.
Lars Petter Oie, a Norwegian diver who lives nearby, has seen the fjord outside his front door taken over by the crabs.
Plunging through a hole in the ice, another diver surfaced within two minutes with a huge specimen. A snap of its claw is enough to remove a man's finger.
Mr Oie said: "I have been to conferences on the crab and one thing the experts agree on is that they have rarely come across a species that is so adaptable.
"It can survive on almost anything: kelp, dead fish, seaweed and fish eggs. It even eats crushed shells to get the calcium it needs for its shell."
The relentless advance of the crabs has led to calls from some Norwegian marine experts for a government-subsidised "blitz" to try to halt their relentless march south.
Andreas Tveteraas, an analyst in Oslo with the international World Wildlife Fund, said that urgent steps needed to be taken.
"This animal has no natural predators and it's an alien species in the Barents Sea. That's why its numbers are exploding.
"Some scientists say it will stay in the north because it likes the temperature but others think it can go as far south as Gibraltar."
For years the Norwegian government has ignored the underwater advance, undecided whether to treat the crabs as a resource or a pest.
The animal's legs are considered a delicacy and fetch top dollar in Japan and America. Even in Oslo, consumers pay around 200 Norwegian kronor (£15) a pound.
Served with bread, butter, lemon and mayonnaise, the taste and texture of the crab meat is comparable with that of the finest lobster.
One leg is enough to provide a grown man with a filling meal.
At present, some Norwegian fishermen have been granted seasonal licences to catch the Kamchatka crab but stiff regulations on the size of the boat used and other criteria mean they are few in number.
Aasmund Bjordal, of the Department of Marine Resources in the western Norwegian town of Bergen, said: "We're between two policies. One is to get rid of the crabs. The other is to manage it as a fishing resource.
"In the meantime, it's already become an important source of income for some fishermen in the north. The problem is that it may be destroying the fishing stock."
Predicting the crab's long-term effect on the marine ecology is difficult. The Barents Sea provides some of the world's richest fishing grounds and a collapse in stock would be a major disaster.
There is some evidence that the crabs, which often live at great depths, have been eating the eggs of the caplin, a small fish that is a main source of food for cod.
In its native Pacific it faces much sterner competition but has nevertheless edged out other bottom-feeders to reach northern Japan and Vancouver Island.
Transporting the monster crabs to the Barents Sea was originally part of a Stalinist era scheme to provide food for the populations in the north-western Soviet Union.
In the 1990s, for reasons nobody quite understands, the population exploded.
In recognition of the growing threat to the local ecology, Norwegian authorities finally lifted on Jan 1 some of the restrictions on crabbing along part of the shoreline.
As for the fishermen themselves, they are as deeply divided as the government.
Many Norwegian fishermen hate the crabs, blaming them for falling fish stocks and complaining that they get tangled in their nets. But for others, they have brought unprecedented wealth. At the Rallarn, a pub near the harbour, a fierce debate raged this week. Some favour annihilating the crabs, an almost impossible task, while others are tickled pink at the chance to gorge for free on a rare delicacy they find almost at the bottom of their gardens.
Elvis Jenssen, 41, said: "The bloody things hoover up everything off the bottom of the sea and all the fish are disappearing. They came over from Russia and now they're taking over."
But Glenn, a 30-year-old car mechanic, replied: "It's true the seabed now looks like the Sahara but they certainly taste good."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...8/ixportal.html
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Would anyone like any crab?
Well it's rather obvious what they should do; catch as many of the bastards as they can and eat them.
Some overfishing may be in order here.
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I think it's credable. I found this at the BBC:
King crabs march on into Norway
These are just babies - adults can weigh eight kilos
King crabs invading Norwegian waters from neighbouring Russia have been found further north than ever before.
This is the introduction of an alien species... we should do what we can to get rid of them
Jan Sundet
A Norwegian scientist, Jan Sundet, said this week they had been caught as far as 215 kilometres (115 miles) from the mainland.
The crabs - which can weigh up to eight kilogrammes and measure more than a metre across - first entered Norwegian waters 30 years ago, eating everything in their path and killing the native crab population.
"This is the introduction of an alien species, which is always negative," said Mr Sundet, of the Norwegian Institute of Fisheries and Aquaculture Research.
"We should do what we can to get rid of them."
Cod replacement
The King crabs have no natural foe in the area, and have left parts of the sea floor devoid of life.
For fishermen, however, the invasion is not entirely bad news.
They represent an alternative catch to cod, and sell for about five times as much per kilo.
Norway first allowed them to be caught commercially in 2001, and has doubled the annual quota to 200,000 crabs for 2003.
Mr Sundet said no-one has accurately counted the number of King crabs in Norwegian waters, but media reports suggest there could be one million of them.
The big crabs originally came from the Kamchatka peninsula in the Russian Far East.
They began their march into Norway from Russia's Kola peninsula, in search of new breeding grounds.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2526755.stm
Edit: Found another one. This one is from National Geographic. I'll just add the link:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...giantcrabs.html
Well, National Geographic and the BBC are credible sources. Induced animal species going out of control is nothing new. I hardly thing anyone is going to cry when they see the price of crab doing a free fall.
I do listen to a lot of hip-hop myself, but as I said on Che-Lives I would get rid of all my CDs if Kim Jong Il told me. - Chairman Mao
i bet ur all like 40 and boring and not happy! - glamgirl610
Perhaps, we should initiate a movement: Let the American soldiers go home crosses the Christmas day?... - @[email protected]@
Artificial gamma ray bursters can sterilise entire parsecs. Now THAT's a deterrent! - NoXion
I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel
Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che
Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr! - The Anarchist Tension
And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke
Finally I got my hands on a copy of the communist manifesto. Like ......Aren't there any revised editions? - revolutionindia
I saw it on National Geographic's site as well, so the story is true...
We have to keep in mind here that in the Stalin era these Crabs would have been used to feed people. The population raced out of control because they were neglected.
The only reason I can see that commercial fishers won't jump on this is maybe because they don]t want such an abundance of crab meat available, because it would cause a price drop...
Lets not forget, capitalists have grain destroyed in the U.$., supermarkets throw away meat, etc...
These crabs can and should be used to feed the people. As the article says, one single leg can be a full meal.
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No, because they are intelligent, and you are not.
Why don't you just fuck off, you malodorous know-nothing. You should have just posted a pic from ebaumsworld.com instead. Maybe even one that called womyn "****s" and insisted that they should become brooding mothers for the state. You know, just to get all of your daily routine off in one post.
This is an awful situation and looks like a catastrophe similar to the Zebra Mussel situation in the Great Lakes, but you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? This is a dangerous harbinger of a world where very little special variety and animals being allowed to and even encouraged to spread outside of their native areas for more efficient food gathering. Mile-long undersea farms of nothing but one species already exist (Oyster Farms, etc.), but can you imagine 70% of the earth being turned into that?
Anyway, this reminds me of some truly monstrous Japanese Giant Spider Crabs (which account for Great Sushi, mind you, when they have been Tempura-ed). These things are the largest living arthropods, and have been observed to grow up to 4 meters from leg to leg. Of course, the Japanese folklore is strewn with mythology about these things pulling kids under and stuff, which is fun to think about I reckon.
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Why? Because you're racist and you like hearing about little non- whites getting killed? RACIST!
Heh, when I first read the topic name of this thread, I thought it was about some sort of STD Stalin passed on to Europeans and was now a major cause for concern.
Good ol' Stalin and his crabs.
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what the fuck is your problem? can you be any more any more of a dick?
i wish (as do most of us) that you would for once make an intelligent comment rather than shoot out insults or make ridiculous comments. just because someone doesnt agree with "your politics" doesnt mean you have to be an asshole towards them. if you dont like that im vegan than too bad- it has nothing to do with you so it shouldnt such a big deal for you.
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Wrong, that title goes to MidnightMaurader.
Why? Because he is a cock.
Let's not forget a similar issue related to this topic......Mr. Miyagi-san's poor village in Okinawa had their entire fish population decimated by extreme commercial fishing. Now that neat fishing wharehouse where young Daniel-san learned the rare Okinawan "hand-drum defense technique" is only used by geeks for paintball matches.
What have we learned here? Having too many crabs sucks.
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I forgot where this topic was going, so here's a funny story:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/a...ion_abduction_2
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I'd marry anyone woman in that japanese cran photo. (actually maybe just the one in the front right)
Anyway, I heard this story and there is another story of giant jellyfish who have made there way from (America I think) to the Caspian sea and are eating everything there.
The Telegraph, where this story began is a bad newspaper. But I think its right. MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr is alright, I don't think he meant to criticise anyone, he talks about SenoraChe because she is so interested in the environment, which is a good thing of course. He has me in his signature because I am a 'fanatic' Marxist Leninist (in his opinion) which is also a good thing.
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Seriously though, sea lions are crazy smart, they sit at the surface of the water in big groups and watch untill your fishing-line tugs. Then it's a big race for them all to go snatch the fish off of your line.
Here's a funny one on the ludicrous political/ animal connection:
"Nazi raccoons conquer Europe"
You can find it a "ananova.com" (sorry I can't figure out how to post a link)
The funniest thing about this article, is that they make it sound like raccoons are these ruthless, viscious creatures
As an Anarchist, I strangely find myself getting along better with Maoists than Platformists!
I put Senora Che and Darkangel in my profile because they are zealous environmentalists. Caring about the environment is ok, but these two take it overboard. You, CM, are in my profile because you are just strange. To be honest, I find how you seem to be utterly fascinated by anything Asian, especially history, women, and dictators to be rather amusing.
I do listen to a lot of hip-hop myself, but as I said on Che-Lives I would get rid of all my CDs if Kim Jong Il told me. - Chairman Mao
i bet ur all like 40 and boring and not happy! - glamgirl610
Perhaps, we should initiate a movement: Let the American soldiers go home crosses the Christmas day?... - @[email protected]@
Artificial gamma ray bursters can sterilise entire parsecs. Now THAT's a deterrent! - NoXion
I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel
Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che
Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr! - The Anarchist Tension
And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke
Finally I got my hands on a copy of the communist manifesto. Like ......Aren't there any revised editions? - revolutionindia
Lol, I really don't think that I am doing a very good job of making friends am I?
I do listen to a lot of hip-hop myself, but as I said on Che-Lives I would get rid of all my CDs if Kim Jong Il told me. - Chairman Mao
i bet ur all like 40 and boring and not happy! - glamgirl610
Perhaps, we should initiate a movement: Let the American soldiers go home crosses the Christmas day?... - @[email protected]@
Artificial gamma ray bursters can sterilise entire parsecs. Now THAT's a deterrent! - NoXion
I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel
Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che
Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr! - The Anarchist Tension
And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke
Finally I got my hands on a copy of the communist manifesto. Like ......Aren't there any revised editions? - revolutionindia
Did you ever think you were?
Don't bother replying either.
haha, that goes in my quote. I second your opinion on the Chairman though
Resist Much. Obey Little
-Walt Whitman
<span style=\'color:gray\'>"As through this life you travel, you meet some funny men
Some rob you with a six-gun, some with a fountain pen
As through this life you ramble, as through this life you roam
You'll never see an outlaw take a family from their home"
-from Pretty Boy Floyd
(W. Guthrie)</span>
exuse mua?
-I don't think that being a vegitarian, and not believing in shipping the worlds shit to anartica is a good idea makes me ''extreme''. So I don't agree with some of MM shit? I really don't like my quote being in your siggy. I didn't mean it to come out the way you perceived it.
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yeah, im a zealous environmentalist <_< you only say that because i dont believe what you believe or have the same shitty attitude towards the environment that you do. like i said- my beliefs dont concern you so if you dont like it than too damn bad, you'll just have to deal with it like a mature person would do, which you have demonstrated that you're not capable of. i do take it seriously, its the only earth we have, as i do anything else i believe in. if you dont take anything seriously or practice what you preach what the hell is the point of believing in anything at all. if anything, i rather be zealous environmentalist (which im not) rather than a damn fool like yourself.
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You're right. I learned that the hard way (if you know what i mean
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