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    Hello all, I'm a Marxist looking for a new place to study and debate to replace the iFunny political community. I'm currently only 17, but I've been a Marxist for about 3 years now, mostly due to my family getting some of the worst from the 2008 financial crisis. I'm super critical of a lot of leftist projects, such as the USSR or DPRK. I'm also very much anti-tankie. I wouldn't necessarily call myself a Trotskyist or ML or anything of the sort, but I identify a lot with Zizek. I spend my free time listening to music and reading philosophy, especially Hegel, Kant, Frederic Jameson, and, of course, Marx.
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    Hi! Idk much about žižek but i feel like we have things in common about being into karl marx & anti-tank c:
    Sous les paves, la merde!
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    Hello all, I'm a Marxist looking for a new place to study and debate to replace the iFunny political community. I'm currently only 17, but I've been a Marxist for about 3 years now, mostly due to my family getting some of the worst from the 2008 financial crisis. I'm super critical of a lot of leftist projects, such as the USSR or DPRK. I'm also very much anti-tankie. I wouldn't necessarily call myself a Trotskyist or ML or anything of the sort, but I identify a lot with Zizek. I spend my free time listening to music and reading philosophy, especially Hegel, Kant, Frederic Jameson, and, of course, Marx.
    Also, I'm wondering how exactly I should get myself started with involving myself in this community. Any suggestions?

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    Welcome, anti-tank sentiment is good. Frederic Jameson is nice, reading Kant and Hegel is also big plus, if you indeed read them and not just being a pseud. But don't forget the genius Schlegel bros, and Fichte, but most importantly Schelling, whose ghost haunts both Hegelian and Post-Hegelian thinking (think of Feuerbach, Kierkegaard, Marx). There's no escape from Schelling.
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    Welcome, anti-tank sentiment is good. Frederic Jameson is nice, reading Kant and Hegel is also big plus, if you indeed read them and not just being a pseud. But don't forget the genius Schlegel bros, and Fichte, but most importantly Schelling, whose ghost haunts both Hegelian and Post-Hegelian thinking (think of Feuerbach, Kierkegaard, Marx). There's no escape from Schelling.
    While I am aware of those four, I have yet to extensively study them, and I do not see myself doing so in the foreseeable future. I'm currently trying to shift my studies away from German Idealism and towards Contemporary Philosophy, hence Zizek and Jameson. In the immediate future, I plan on reading more Zizek, but also continue with Simon Blackburn and Terry Eagleton. I also do plan on reading Simone De Beauvoir's "The Second Sex", as feminism overall is just interesting to me.

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    Hi! Idk much about žižek but i feel like we have things in common about being into karl marx & anti-tank c:
    Read Zizek, or watch his videos. His voice is difficult at first, but the content is really good. He references pop culture all of the time, so its rather easy to pick up on.

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    While I am aware of those four, I have yet to extensively study them, and I do not see myself doing so in the foreseeable future. I'm currently trying to shift my studies away from German Idealism and towards Contemporary Philosophy, hence Zizek and Jameson. In the immediate future, I plan on reading more Zizek, but also continue with Simon Blackburn and Terry Eagleton. I also do plan on reading Simone De Beauvoir's "The Second Sex", as feminism overall is just interesting to me.

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    Nice! If you are interested in feminism and Zizek, you should really read Butler, because Zizek references (and criticizes) her a lot. If you don't fear more radical, or even "extreme" voices, try Carla Lonzi as well, especially Sputiamo su Hegel, and Manifesto di Rivolta feminile. Those are bit too much for me, but in their age they were refreshing and they are still interesting feminist texts.

    Two more addendums and I'm done:
    1. If you are into non-Stalinist and non-Trotskyist stuff, and search something contemporary, I can recommend Endnotes, I think it is great stuff. It is super-critical of many aspects of the historical and contemporary left (such as natlib, feminism - NOT from the usual anti-feminist pov, ML, anarchism, and historical left communism as well.) Also Troploin.
    2. If you want to delve deeper into Hegel (which is, while not necessary for the movement and revolutionary activity, but still) there is a nice 'game' that I used to play. If you read two , essentially bourgeois authors (namely Dilthey and Taubes), and their thoughts on Hegel, while simultaneously reading Marx's and some Marxist stuff on Hegel and philosophy, and, in a Marxist framework: anti-philosophy or non-philosophy - it's awesome, try it, if you have the time. Reading Dilthey and Taubes on one side, and reading Marx, Bordiga, Lukács and Balibar on the other, then comparing these texts and their views on Hegel, Idealism, and philosphy in general - superb.

    Anyway, sorry for my rambling, and welcome again!
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    Nice! If you are interested in feminism and Zizek, you should really read Butler, because Zizek references (and criticizes) her a lot. If you don't fear more radical, or even "extreme" voices, try Carla Lonzi as well, especially Sputiamo su Hegel, and Manifesto di Rivolta feminile. Those are bit too much for me, but in their age they were refreshing and they are still interesting feminist texts.

    Two more addendums and I'm done:
    1. If you are into non-Stalinist and non-Trotskyist stuff, and search something contemporary, I can recommend Endnotes, I think it is great stuff. It is super-critical of many aspects of the historical and contemporary left (such as natlib, feminism - NOT from the usual anti-feminist pov, ML, anarchism, and historical left communism as well.) Also Troploin.
    2. If you want to delve deeper into Hegel (which is, while not necessary for the movement and revolutionary activity, but still) there is a nice 'game' that I used to play. If you read two , essentially bourgeois authors (namely Dilthey and Taubes), and their thoughts on Hegel, while simultaneously reading Marx's and some Marxist stuff on Hegel and philosophy, and, in a Marxist framework: anti-philosophy or non-philosophy - it's awesome, try it, if you have the time. Reading Dilthey and Taubes on one side, and reading Marx, Bordiga, Lukács and Balibar on the other, then comparing these texts and their views on Hegel, Idealism, and philosphy in general - superb.

    Anyway, sorry for my rambling, and welcome again!
    Thanks dude, I'll have to try it out! And do you have any specific texts from feminist philosophers you recommend for me?

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    Thanks dude, I'll have to try it out! And do you have any specific texts from feminist philosophers you recommend for me?

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    A very good introduction to the whole theme is Herta Nagl-Docekal's Feminist Philosophy. Aside from the Lonzi texts, there's also Butler's Gender Trouble, which essentially offers a bourgeois point of view, but it is a pretty important text.(Basically the same can be said about Germaine Greer's The Female Eunuch. If you want less theoretical and more 'easy' stuff, you could read the section 'Black Panther Women Speak' from Philip S. Foner's book. Ross Wolfe's Non-Identity and Negation is a short but important contemporary text. It is critical of bourgeois feminism and 'identitarianism' from a leftcom perspective, I don't agree with all poits of it, but it raises interesting questions. August Bebel's Woman and Socialism is a bit old now, but if you have the time, you could give it a shot. More recent and more controversial: Silvia Federici's Caliban and the Witch; and Women: The Last Colony by various authors. Troploin's text titled 'On the "woman question"' is from a contemporary communisation-tendency point of view. Of course there are a thousand more titles but these are the main texts I'm familiar with and those I could recommend. I think they represent a variety of tendencies and schools of thought.

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