Spamming of several threads by the 'spam-defining' faction

[Ele'ill]

Yes, it *did* need to be closed -- it was both incorrect, and then also topically *irrelevant* to current board conditions.

You closed it to get back at users who came forward about your other abusive and disruptive behavior. The problem being the behavior being called out in the ckaihatsu spamming thread was still occurring when you closed the ckaihatsu spamming thread, both of those things being against board policy. Closing the thread wasn't enough for you though, you created another thread and commanded users to post there instead of the ckaihatsu spamming thread which is abusive and harassing. When users created a new thread to document your spam, you infracted them, against board policy.

[ckaihatsu]

You closed it to get back at users who came forward about your other abusive and disruptive behavior.

No, that's incorrect -- you're not listening. The reason is here:

[The thread] was both incorrect, and then also topically *irrelevant* to current board conditions.

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The problem being the behavior being called out in the ckaihatsu spamming thread was still occurring when you closed the ckaihatsu spamming thread,

No, that's untrue. The thread was no longer current, so it was irrelevant to the board by that point in time.

both of those things being against board policy. Closing the thread wasn't enough for you though, you created another thread and commanded users

I don't, and *can't* 'command' anyone to do anything here according to my personal whims, as you're implying.

to post there instead of the ckaihatsu spamming thread which is abusive and harassing. When users created a new thread to document your spam, you infracted them, against board policy.

No, your recounting of board policy is incorrect. You still think that just because you assert something, that you're *correct* in your assertion(s). You're not.

[Ele'ill]

^ the thread was current because you were still spamming, and arguing, and derailing threads. If that thread, the ckaihatsu spamming thread, according to you, was about a topic that no longer mattered, why then did you derail the russia is an imperialist country thread, and several other threads, to talk about the same topic? Why after closing the ckaihatsu spamming thread that according to you didn't matter anymore, did you open another thread, in another forum, to talk about the same topic?

throughout this whole thing you've utilized logic/patterns of behavior that abusers use to avoid accountability and to continue carrying out abuse

[ckaihatsu]

^ the thread was current because you were still spamming, and arguing, and derailing threads.

No, that's not true -- if it *were* true the thread would have been relevant and wouldn't have had to be closed.

If that thread, the ckaihatsu spamming thread, according to you, was about a topic that no longer mattered, why then did you derail the russia is an imperialist country thread, and several other threads, to talk about the same topic?

Again you're falsely attributing actions onto me that were done by you and your faction.

Why after closing the ckaihatsu spamming thread that according to you didn't matter anymore, did you open another thread, in another forum, to talk about the same topic?

You're incorrect. This did not happen. (If you mean *this* thread, note the title / topic of it, and also note that you're off-topic.)

throughout this whole thing you've utilized logic/patterns of behavior that abusers use to avoid accountability and to continue carrying out abuse

No, there's no 'abuse' here -- your power-hungry faction needs to stop making false allegations.

[Ele'ill]

And here you are now trying to make people feel guilty or ashamed for stepping forward against your behavior, and trying to make them and everyone else think that they are the ones who are abusing power. That's the logic of abusers.

[Bea Arthur]

If the purpose of a thread is to resolve a dispute, and most of the participants still have that dispute, by definition that means the thread was still relevant and is still relevant. You have to use pretzel logic to try to argue against this obvious point.

[Bea Arthur]

And here you are now trying to make people feel guilty or ashamed for stepping forward against your behavior, and trying to make them and everyone else think that they are the ones who are abusing power. That's the logic of abusers.

I've said it from the very start. What ckaihatsu is doing here is a classic case of gaslighting, a psychologically abusive and emotionally manipulative practice.

[ckaihatsu]

And here you are now trying to make people feel guilty or ashamed for stepping forward against your behavior, and trying to make them and everyone else think that they are the ones who are abusing power. That's the logic of abusers.

If the purpose of a thread is to resolve a dispute, and most of the participants still have that dispute, by definition that means the thread was still relevant and is still relevant. You have to use pretzel logic to try to argue against this obvious point.

I've said it from the very start. What ckaihatsu is doing here is a classic case of gaslighting, a psychologically abusive and emotionally manipulative practice.

The problem with all of this is that you're using false *premises* -- I haven't been doing anything against board policy, so your faction has *no justification* for your crusade and ongoing tirade. Since my actions are *not* problematic, my point stands that your internal-faction agenda is spurious and your efforts *are* irrelevant to the board.

[Bea Arthur]

The problem with all of this is that you're using false *premises* -- I haven't been doing anything against board policy,

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[ckaihatsu]

Off-topic.


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This thread is getting too derailed into the usual rantings from the 'pushy say-so faction' and its crusade for internal dictatorial policy-making power here.

I'm going to start closing any new threads that are opened, as well as any pre-existing ones, that are used for faction-crusade rantings. Your faction does not get to use this board simply as a platform for your internal political agenda / crusade.

Any faction members who attempt to circumvent these thread closings will be handed warnings and then infractions.

Thread closed.