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    Default Mounting evidence of White House collusion with neo-Nazis

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    The murder of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, Virginia did not come out of the blue, but followed months of warnings about the likelihood of violence by white supremacist groups.

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    Default Protests continue against Trump and Nazi rampage in Charlottesville

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    Demonstrations involving thousands of people continued Monday in cities across the US to protest the deadly fascist riot in Charlottesville, Virginia and President Trump’s promotion of far-right forces.

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    Alot of protests too many to mention, literally every major US city, some great support from overseas as well, from Germany, the UK, China even Iraq. Discord has begun purging white supremacists from its servers, somebody raised on antifa flag in front of a Minneapolis courthouse. We might want to start discouraging vigilantism. The alt-right is panicked and afraid its going to be labelled a terrorist group (I thought they already were). 3 CEO's from Underarmour, Intel, and Merck have resigned from Trumps advisory councils, so far the US media has been silent on Heather Heyer's affiliation with the IWW and the helicopter crash is going to take atleast 3 weeks before any answer is given.

    We do know that it was flying at a low altitude, and there was no mayday call. Helicopters are very difficult to crash especially at low altitude, as long as the blades continue to rotate the engine can completely fail and you'll fall relatively safely to the ground. Something had to hit it to make it flip upside down and then crash the way it did. It seems like a huge coincidence that hundreds of heavily armed nazis show up with military grade weapons, and then a few minutes after being broken up by the police a helicopter mysteriously crashes.

    Protesters also tore down a confederate statue in Durham

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    That's a pretty awesome picture.
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    [IMG]https://www.revleft.space/vb/cache.php?img=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia% 2FDHOqObWXgAIabka.jpg[IMG]

    It still looks like a fucking monument for the Confederacy, though. (Just saying.)
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    Default Charlottesville: A gun in his face, but he got the photo

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    (Charlottesville) Four neo-Nazis beat black school teacher Deandre Harris with iron bars and lumber. ©Zach D Roberts 2017

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    Liberals are to blame for this.

    Disgusting acts and a beautiful young life lost. Liberals from all over the country are condemning it but her blood is on their hands.

    They're complicit, along with every disgusting fascist that took part in that demonstration. They write checks that actual leftists have to cash. But where are they when the shit goes down?

    Remember...liberals defend fascists. Always have. Always will.
    What a fatal point of view. Learn from history. The KPD's "social fascists" view in the 1920/30ies, which is an equivalent to your equation of liberals (in American political terminology, social democrats would be much more fitting) and american fascists, made fascism in Germany possible. In the end, both, social democrats and communists ended in the camps. A united front would have in place back then and urgently is now.
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    What a fatal point of view. Learn from history. The KPD's "social fascists" view in the 1920/30ies, which is an equivalent to your equation of liberals (in American political terminology, social democrats would be much more fitting) and american fascists, made fascism in Germany possible. In the end, both, social democrats and communists ended in the camps. A united front would have in place back then and urgently is now.
    I can't believe what I just read. A united front with liberals? And you have Marx in your username?

    I will never unite with liberals. Any commonality with liberals could only exist in respect to a common foe. But liberals aren't interested in revolution. They have their own ideas and their own cause. They have destroyed society - they stymie class consciousness. This is deliberate. They have actively worked to supplant us, the left, portraying themselves as champions of social justice. But all they do is poison and divide. False shepherds, and the left hand of capital - they work in conjunction with the conservatives to keep the proletariat divided and at each other's throats. They throw bones at the poor...never meat. They don't free the oppressed...just make their shackles a little more comfortable. They're your friend, see.
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    What's the rest of the story of the teacher?


    Also

    http://abc11.com/politics/deputies-a...tatue/2309889/


    Takiyah Thompson, 22, was taken into custody shortly after protesters held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at North Carolina Central University. Thompson climbed a ladder to the top of the statue to tie a rope around its neck before the crowd tore it down

    Thompson is charged with

    • disorderly conduct by injury to a statue (Class II Misdemeanor)
    • damage to real property (statue as a fixture (Class I Misdemeanor)
    • participation in a riot with property damage in excess of $1,500 (Class H Felony)
    • inciting others to riot where there is property damage in excess of $1,500 (Class F Felony)
    "The people decided to take matters into our own hands and remove the statue," said Thompson, a member of the far-left Workers World Party and a student at N.C. Central University. "We are tired of waiting on politicians who could have voted to remove the white supremacist statues years ago, but they failed to act. So we acted."
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    We are in the early throes of total ideological polarization. Civil war is imminent and the enemy is armed.

    Arm yourselves. All antifa should begin preparing for the worst.

    I don't mean to sound dramatic but I have a gut feeling that what just happened is a harbinger of what's to come. After all, we're only six months into Trump's term and look what's happening. Imagine how it'll be after three or four years.

    Trump is radicalizing his base, and the opposition is likewise radicalizing. The shit is about to go down. Believe me. It's gonna happen.
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    I can't believe what I just read. A united front with liberals?
    Dude I swear GLF is a fucking stormfront troll lol

    What's the rest of the story of the teacher?
    He's got a few staples in his head, a couple scars, and a chipped tooth but he'll be alright, gofundme is already up to $132K for him, I'm a little more upset that his medical insurance doesn't cover this, but I'm guessing because he's only an instructional assistant at a special education program he doesn't qualify

    http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-...out-1797796038

    https://www.gofundme.com/i-was-beate...e-supremacists
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    I will never unite with liberals.
    Except for liberal reforms apparently.
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    Dude I swear GLF is a fucking stormfront troll lol
    If you really believe me to be a stormfront troll, then lol'ing is hardly the proper response.

    Except for liberal reforms apparently.
    Which reforms? Are you talking about gay marriage? Not everything liberals do are bad. But to suggest that we should "unite" with people who support capitalism is fucked up on so many levels.
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    Which reforms? Are you talking about gay marriage? Not everything liberals do are bad. But to suggest that we should "unite" with people who support capitalism is fucked up on so many levels.
    I agree that uniting with liberals is stupid but so is supporting reforms within capitalism.
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    I agree that uniting with liberals is stupid but so is supporting reforms within capitalism.
    Fair enough. But please try and keep in mind that while I don't condone ID politics and other liberal methods, it's very easy for privileged people to turn their nose up at reforms for ideological reasons when it's not their lives being negatively affected in the mean time.

    Nonetheless, I had what I felt was a dialectically sound reason for supporting the liberal reform of gay marriage. Traditionalism precludes class-consciousness; it's the social institutions that keep the proletariat bound to the service of god and country.
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    The Daily Stormer is officially offline (or atleast moved to Russia.ru). The afl-cio head Richard Trumka resigned as trumps adviser as did Scott Paul head of the AAM the manufacturer's lobby. Statues are being torn down in Florida, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Maryland. The daughters of the confederacy are apparently snatching up the ones they own and maintain in the middle of the night (taking them who knows where). Most of these statues are in the old southern confederacy but some are in the north, and some are even in states that were founded after the civil war, and even stranger still, some are in Canada like the plaque that was removed yesterday in Montreal. The "holy grail" so to speak, is the statues in Gettysburg, which are likely going nowhere as well as the ones in the US capitol...

    ...and this giant in Stone Mountain, Georgia


    Airbnb has banned neonazis from using their services, Richard Spencer apparently can't rent a hotel room anywhere in the contiguous united states anymore. A few local politicians have either resigned or been fired for comments supporting neonazis like a judge in georgia and an RNC county chairman in new mexico. Also one of the protestors who tore down the statue in Durham was arrested, but a few more protests are planned for the week.


    Nazis themselves are also planning a few more rallies. A holocaust memorial was trashed in boston, and someone ominously sprayed "fuck law" over the Abraham Lincoln memorial in DC. Somebody was also caught trying to do a Timothy McVeigh style copycat attack in Oklahoma.

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    A coalition and community support effort posted up outside spencer's apartment and got busy in the surrounding neighborhoods.
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    Fair enough. But please try and keep in mind that while I don't condone ID politics and other liberal methods, it's very easy for privileged people to turn their nose up at reforms for ideological reasons when it's not their lives being negatively affected in the mean time.
    Stop trying to use identity politics to say that I'm priveledged in areas where you don't know shit about me. Even if I was it doesn't invalidate my argument.

    Nonetheless, I had what I felt was a dialectically sound reason for supporting the liberal reform of gay marriage. Traditionalism precludes class-consciousness; it's the social institutions that keep the proletariat bound to the service of god and country.
    No, you're just a liberal. It's OK, we have a special forum just for you. It's called opposing ideologies.
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    Is this bizarro world? What happened to revleft?
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    I'm not talking about a general alliance with "liberals". I'm talking about limited tactical alliances with social democrats and the left-liberal bourgeoisie against the fascists. In the rise of fascism everything else would be a big strategical mistake. Again, have a look at German history. The rejection of the KPD to fight the fascists thugs alongside with the SPD weakened the opposition to the NSDAP tremendously and was one of the reasons it was so easy for the NSDAP to seize power. And there is even remotely powerful communist force like the KPD back then is present on the US streets. You don't have the luxury to pick your alliance partners against the fascists scum. Take what is there. Especially in the US, where the far Left seems to be even more marginalized than in Europe.

    I can't believe what I just read. A united front with liberals? And you have Marx in your username?

    I will never unite with liberals. Any commonality with liberals could only exist in respect to a common foe. But liberals aren't interested in revolution. They have their own ideas and their own cause. They have destroyed society - they stymie class consciousness. This is deliberate. They have actively worked to supplant us, the left, portraying themselves as champions of social justice. But all they do is poison and divide. False shepherds, and the left hand of capital - they work in conjunction with the conservatives to keep the proletariat divided and at each other's throats. They throw bones at the poor...never meat. They don't free the oppressed...just make their shackles a little more comfortable. They're your friend, see.
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