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    hey, I'm not in a position to comment on revleft's moderation procedures but for the sake of argument hear me out.

    I'd hazard a guess that the fact new members have to make ten posts that go through moderation deters new members from posting. It also can't make a lot of sense for moderators to use their time doing this either, especially if they want to focus on other things like boosting activity on the forum by creating content.

    It makes sense to introduce the rule in order to stop spamming from fascists and reactionaries, but only when there is so much activity that revleft can afford to be selective. given that there is so little activity on revleft the risk of dettering members from posting may be greater than the risk of spam. (I realise there are also additional security concerns if you have someone infiltrate the forum to spy on members or get their personal details, etc but that can only be problem if there are members to spy on).

    the trick is to get new members hooked and to want to post again and again and this feature sort of stops that dead. Its cynical, but in terms of social media your competing for peoples attention- so if members are like one of Pavlov's dog, they won't salivate for food if you only associate food with ringing a bell once. it has to done several times as the repetition matters to build up habit and positive associations with the forum. most of us hate facebook and twitter and their content is **** but we still go back to it because we're addicted. the brains been wired up already. if new members find it difficult to post, they won't want to hang around very long to see what the place is about.

    Would it not make sense to at least suspend the rule for maybe six months, make it easier for new members to join and be active rather than effectively push them away? Or maybe even reduce it to 5 or 3 so that a member can post it that in one day, a mod can check to see if its spam, and then the new members are free to do what ever when they log on next day? If it were just three posts or even one, that would eliminate anything like people trying to post scams or promoting books and stuff.

    If not, that's fine. But I felt I should at least try to present something positive that might help.
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    hey, I'm not in a position to comment on revleft's moderation procedures

    I'd say you are, just as with any other participant here in good standing.

    (I'll wait to see what other input may be provided on your suggestion, to avoid the community-of-one thing.)
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    I'm with laika on this one. A removal of the ten post moderation is a good idea specifically because we don't have many members right now and a lot of new folks don't get past ten posts, and I'd imagine at least some of it is because the whole process to make a post takes longer for them.
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    Actually it's not the case anymore for quiet some time that the first 10 posts of new members are generally placed into moderation queue. But the first 10 posts are checked by the Aksimet anti-span filter. Unfortunately there are many false positives.
    However, I have lowered the number of posts to be checked to just one now. So that potential spam bots can still be detected and banned, but far less posts are placed in the moderation queue.
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    Two words: "brand awareness" we need get revlefts name out to the public im talking banner,s stickers, buying ad space during the super bowl, anything we can get, start an aggressive telemarketing campaign out of Bangladesh, hire a street to team to canvass neighborhoods in our demographic. Sponsor free ticket giveaways to a concert or a timeshare, matching hats for revleft members people love free hats.

    Plus we need some kind of reward system like every day you sign in you get a blue star once you get 10 blue stars you can trade them for a gold star once you get 10 gold stars you get a red star and so on in that fashion in perpetuity
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    I know this is slightly off-topic, but since we're talking about revleft needing new members, do you know what really disappointed me? I thought for sure that when Trump won the presidency, we would gain so many new members. Yet it seems like that kinda stuff only ever works for the enemy. It's almost like communists are cursed so that nothing ever works out for us. It's very disheartening and depressing. Although I've always said that socialists should never glorify the past and only look to the future, even I find myself watching USSR and DDR marches on youtube because shit is just so depressing right now. Needless to say I really hope revleft gets going again.
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    Revleft's problem is that this isn't a Communist site. Hence why so many resident reactionaries are allowed to openly post. With no actual direction, what actually separates the site from any other site on the internet (which are actually fun)? Nothing.

    If you want the site to get membership, I suggest doing some funny things like raiding that shithole Stormfront or Trump's reddit page. Raise attention etc...
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    I know this is slightly off-topic, but since we're talking about revleft needing new members, do you know what really disappointed me? I thought for sure that when Trump won the presidency, we would gain so many new members. Yet it seems like that kinda stuff only ever works for the enemy. It's almost like communists are cursed so that nothing ever works out for us. It's very disheartening and depressing. Although I've always said that socialists should never glorify the past and only look to the future, even I find myself watching USSR and DDR marches on youtube because shit is just so depressing right now. Needless to say I really hope revleft gets going again.
    offline, the democratic socialists of america (DSA) and the CPUSA did get a membership bump. The DSA's growth was pretty sudden, but it won't have a significant impact on US politics unless its part of a much bigger trend given how small they both were to start with.

    http://www.cpusa.org/article/trump-s...-growth-surge/

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/04/po...iew/index.html

    Actually it's not the case anymore for quiet some time that the first 10 posts of new members are generally placed into moderation queue. But the first 10 posts are checked by the Aksimet anti-span filter. Unfortunately there are many false positives.
    However, I have lowered the number of posts to be checked to just one now. So that potential spam bots can still be detected and banned, but far less posts are placed in the moderation queue.
    Thanks. I hope it works.
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    Revleft's problem is that this isn't a Communist site. Hence why so many resident reactionaries are allowed to openly post. With no actual direction, what actually separates the site from any other site on the internet (which are actually fun)? Nothing.

    If you want the site to get membership, I suggest doing some funny things like raiding that shithole Stormfront or Trump's reddit page. Raise attention etc...
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    As far as the board goes, I'm glad to see that change made in how new posters are handled.

    I also kinda agree with you though, raiding SF or whatever might be fun if it were clever. But let's face it, most of us aren't that clever.
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    Seeing as this is seen as acceptable by an admin, from here on out when I have a disagreement with someone I will be asking them to reference this. If you want an explanation of my views, too bad.
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    I tried trolling SF back in the day to try and undermine them and see how much lefty stuff they'd tolerate as long as you claim to be a nationalist but they see through you immediately at the slightest insinuation and restrict you - it's not worth it and I don't have the stomach for it anymore.

    Hate forums aside, it is important to stay up to date with what the right-wing news media is disseminating. I wouldn't give them my business though - not even to troll them. Every click puts money in their pocket just remember that.
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    I don't think you should encourage raiding other websites or whatever. That'll just lead to a toxic environment. As for Trump's inauguration leading to more members? Trump inspires a vote for a 'lesser evil' in such a way that even Hilary seems like a better alternative - someone like Obama makes people recognise that those 'lesser evil' so-called progressives come with drone strikes on civilians, oil pipelines and police shooting and so inspires people on the left to look for a genuine alternative. Or, to put it in historic terms, the Bolsheviks grew when Kerensky and the liberals came to power in the February Revolution and were proven failures whereas in Germany electing a nutjob like Hitler allowed the establishment to utterly devastate the left to disastrous consequences.

    Overall, this website will only grow if the people on the forum provide a welcoming atmosphere and engage in some decent, relevant, discussion.
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    Revleft's problem is that this isn't a Communist site. Hence why so many resident reactionaries are allowed to openly post. With no actual direction, what actually separates the site from any other site on the internet (which are actually fun)? Nothing.

    Just f.y.i., it would help if people *use* the term 'reactionary' where appropriate.

    I recently dealt with a pro-Osama-bin-Laden poster here, and eventually had to draw a line in the sand. There have been no posts from that person since.
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    Edit- Unban everyone, light moderation if any, rearrange the forum by whatever becomes popular, and just let shit happen, if something needs moderation then the moderators can deal with it when it comes up and be open about it etc
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    To build off of what has been posted above (by everyone) I think that an improvement could be made to the specific direction the culture takes on this website. While we like to shit on reddit or whatever, there are a lot of things they can do due to the structure that we can't. So what is it that the structure of a forum like this can offer that refit can't? I would assume a site like this, while not being effect for it, could afford much more radical stances, it's less susceptible to raids and such, and in my experience there is a greater ability to collaborate and grow theory and praxis on a site that stays more consistent than somewhere like reddit. Of course theory etc... Can spring from anywhere, but the easy to follow threads here (at least I find reddit to be hard to follow at times) make the discussion much more accessible to those who aren't 'initiated' into reddit subcultural shit (not that we don't have our own, rooster anyone?), but it's a lot easier to identify and learn about imo. Idk if what I just said is actually useful but it's just some random observations.
    "I'm not interested in indulging whims from members of your faction."
    Seeing as this is seen as acceptable by an admin, from here on out when I have a disagreement with someone I will be asking them to reference this. If you want an explanation of my views, too bad.
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    I came to the website a year or so ago, and there were some great threads. It's always best to see a thread, an argument, a controversy etc. happen in front of you, as it were. I learned a lot from these threads. But then they fade into the obscurity of the archives.

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