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This shit's live so I'll just let you read it live. Expect updates to keep rolling in.
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/
Previously, in April:
(nice going)
BANS GOT YOU PARANOID? I MADE A GROUP FOR YOU! http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=1349 NOW OPEN FOR EVERYBODY!!!
"Think for yourself; question authority." - Timothy Lenin
This probably could not have happened in a worse place at a worse time![]()
Finally.
Erdogan needed to go for a while now, lets just hope the Coup group is not worse.
There's a tradition in Turkey, not necessarily a positive one, of the military enacting a coup in order to uphold the secular, 'democratic' traditions of capitalism and suppress the Islamic, right-wing traditions that folks like Erdogan spew. There's some thought that Erdogan and his cronies orchestrated this themselves, considering how unorganised the coup has been, basically to give themselves a popularity boost since they're particularly unpopular at the moment. Dunno, still in the 'wait and see' phase.
Modern democracy is nothing but the freedom to preach whatever is to the advantage of the bourgeoisie - Lenin
As far as I know revleft is still active in Turkey.
So, message to all posters.
First, think of our comrades in Turkey. Major social media sites are down. So DO NOT SPREAD RUMORS! The coupists have declared martial law. In particular, if there is a development that you think in anyway ENDANGERS A FELLOW REVLEFTER in ANY WAY based in Turkey, DO NOT POST IT HERE. This is not a time to fuck around from the comfort abroard. Anything from somebody who is not in Turkey long the lines of "Death to XYZ" or "Down with the fascists" don't help.
I cannot stress this enough. DO NOT MAKE OUR COMRADES A TARGET FOR EITHER SIDE. All Turkish leftists stand for genuine democracy, but also despise Erdogan. This is a very dangerous situation for them.
If you must keep up to date, this twitter account seems to be able to get by the censors for now:
https://twitter.com/ZiaWeise
Last edited by MarxSchmarx; 16th July 2016 at 03:07.
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http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016.../turk-j16.html
Is it just a coincidence that in the past few days, Ankara has sought reconciliation with the Syrian government, and Russia - maybe some players don't want that.....
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Turkey has adopted a double-edged approach toward Syria: vowing to normalize relations with the country, Ankara, at the same time, still cannot reconcile itself with the necessity to hold dialogue with the legitimate and democratically-elected Syrian leader, Bashar al-Assad.
Mmmm this is very doubtful. These coups take months of planning, they just aren't a spur of the moment thing.
Apparently Erdogan is actively blaming the US for the coup. Perhaps Žižek's Putogan is finally becoming a reality?
This, sadly, cannot lead to anything good. This was a failed coup: the govt. can justify having a police state for the next few years.
Am I a bad person for having a super-capitalist friend?
It was the military attempting the coup. It would have led to this regardless and a crackdown on leftists as enemies of the state. It already happened in Libya and Egypt
"If you consider an outcry against Stalinist mass murder and its justification a "dramatic moralist outcry" then how about an undramatic, unmoral outcry: "Fuck you!""-Red Dave
I think this whole situation is fodder for conspiracy theories. I for one wouldn't be surprised if Erdogan orchestrated the coup himself to regain public and international support and justify his continued destruction of the left in Turkey. On the other hand, Professor As'ad AbuKhalil has suggested that the coup was actually organized by outside forces like the Saudi government: http://angryarab.blogspot.ca/
"If you're feeling low, stuck in some bardo
I, even I know the solution
Love, music, wine and revolution."
-The Magnetic Fields
“The most violent element in society is ignorance. ”
― Emma Goldman
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However, the question is whether a coup could have revived formal democracy today. Erdogan enjoys the support of the Turkish masses, who are already deeply reactionary. I don't see how a military coup could have been successful this time. Considering that even the HDP despised the coup attempt, they still had some breathing room for both parliamentary and general party activity, despite the fact that Erdogan was extending his power. Turkish democrats probably should have devoted themselves to the HDP. Anyway, the coup attempt is Erdogans personal Reichstag fire and I feel gloomy about Turkey's future now. It will be difficult to figure out what is to be done in order to fight for political freedoms.
I wrote a short piece the other day about the coup and people power:
http://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2...y-people-power
Devrim
Following a meeting with the foreign ministers of the European Union, Kerry indirectly warned Turkey on Monday that it might lose its NATO membership if the government continued to act against its political opponents. “NATO membership supposes respect for democratic principles,” he announced.
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Erdogan is a reactionary politician with authoritarian ambitions. But the settling of accounts with him is the task of the Turkish and international working class, not the Turkish military and imperialist powers. Not least, the coup attempt was aimed at pre-empting such a movement from below. Had the coup succeeded, the military would have detained tens of thousands of militant workers, as in previous military takeovers, torturing and murdering them, without Washington or Berlin blinking an eye.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016.../turk-j19.html
It's a bit of a poor article. There is no movement from below to preempt, and there is no reason to think that the military would have detained tens of thousands of militant workers.
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90 journalists are in jail and more than 130 media have been banned since mid-July.
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