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I was in the Maoist, NCP-LC/RSCC RG, PYO Milleu ask me anything
Yep I was with that huge Maoist crowd that was once one of the largest party building projects in the 21st century that imploded overnight. I know it quite well and for a number of years and I am on and was on a close basis with most of the leading cadre. Ask me anything
Also if the admins could move this thread to chit chat and give me chit chat privileges that'd be appreciated. A fair amount of the information I'm going to share is quite sensitive and I'd rather if non-members would not have access to it given that these people know where I live
Why do you like Mao?
"I am vegan because I have compassion for animals; I see them as beings possessed of value not unlike humans. I am an anarchist because I have that same compassion for humans, and because I refuse to settle for compromised perspectives, half-assed strategies and sold-out objectives. As a radical, my approach to animal and human liberation is without compromise: total freedom for all, or else."
"It takes no more time to be a vegetarian than to eat animal flesh.... When non-vegetarians say ‘human problems come first’ I cannot help wondering what exactly it is that they are doing for humans that compels them to continue to support the wasteful ruthless, exploitation of farm animals."
Who or what is the NCP-LC/RSCC RG, PYO?
Really one the largest in the 21st century? I mean that might be true in the US, but was the the NCP-LC big outside of New York? Why couldn't they censure and expel the misogynistic members? What is your opinion on the Red Guards, Maoist Communist Group, Mass Proletariat, Kansas City Revolutionary Collective, and Progressive Youth Organization? What the fuck happened to Signalfire? Was there nothing salvageable? Is there any hope for a new communist party in the US that's not opportunistic in either "left" or right forms?You have to get a few posts in to view Chit-Chat, 15 I think. You could also join the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist group, which you have to join to view, but Roach has to approve you and doesn't come around here as often anymore, and I'm basically the only member that still regularly posts on Revleft.New Communist Party-Liaison Committee, Revolutionary Students Cordinating Committee, Red Guards(Los Angeles, Austin and Philadelphia), Progressive Youth Organization. They are(or were) part a growing US Maoist movement. The NCP-LC and RSCC imploded, but the Red Guards and PYO are still around.Originally Posted by willowtooth
I'm not as familiar with the format of this website so pardon me if I butcher the quotes
The largest presence was in NYC for sure but their network of mass organizations and fronts extended far beyond. RSCC Philly had a network of probably around 30-40 people in its various organizations (SJP, Students Without Borders) while it had a core membership of I believe 12 people. in NYC RSCC alone had 40 members which commanded the SJP's and SWB along with a number of other organizations and network, at their height I'd say the total amount of students in organizations controlled by the NYC branch was at least 100 probably more. The Red Guards in Austin, La and also the Kansas City Progressive Youth Organization was affiliated with them. There's more but I'm leaving stuff out. Outside of Socialist Alternative and the ISO they were probably the only organization to attain the size. I used some hyperbole in saying in the 21st century since I meant to say "in america" but saying it was one of the largest party building attempts in the 21st century isn't inaccurate.
That's a complicated question with many layers. I'm typing out a response but I'm not going to post it until this thread is moved to chit chat. Can someone message the admins?
What is your opinion on theThat's two questions.
What do I think about Red Guards Austin? Well Ratpac is composed of some good people. They're coming out with a summation of their work so far so best to read it from there. They are dependent largely on what's called "Proletarian Feminism" by the North American and Nepalese Communist Milieu. There's a document called "Philosophical Trends in the Feminist Movement which is the source material for this feminism and this document entirely consists of critiques other forms of feminism and proposes nothing to replace them. Outside of this document there is very little to provide content to this "Proletarian Feminism". There was once a work from the Naxalite's journal about sex work which was thrown around a bit but technically the Naxalites don't refer to themselves as proletarian feminists explicitly. So more or less you have a contentless slogan which is used to instruct the members defacto to not engage other works on femminism too heavily while allowing anyone who has enough mao-cred to claim that Prole Femme simply lacks content because it "hasn't been synthesized yet". This is less of an issue for ratpac and RGA since they don't have many problems with misogyny but within RSCC and the LC-NCP it more or less allowed people with enough charismatic authority to claim a mastery of feminism while very few people were educated in what misogny actually looked like on an intrapersonal level. For example there were constant comments from the male comraes about how the woman comrades "Weren't politically developed enough" which in practice meant that the woman were dumb. One Philly RSCC comrade noted that although RSCC had near gender parity (for those not familiar, a close to 50/50 ratio of men and woman) strangly the woman comrades would almost never talk.
I recall a woman comrade telling me how she wouldn't talk because she felt that whatever she said was dumb and still to this day doesn't like talking in political circumstances. It's not an uncommon remark for ex-rscc woman to make.
Probably some of that should come when I discuss your other question! Again when this is moved to chit chat I'll do it I already have the post typed up.
Anyway on to Red Guards Austin. They've got Serve the People which consists in giving people free things and trying to get them to read communist literature. When people say that this is red charity RGA comrades will respond that it is all quite political and that also they interview residents to ask what their concern is. From one ex-Serve the People comrade this consists of hearing out peoples problems and proclaiming "and this is why we need a people's army". I am rather certain that it is more sophsiticated than that in practice but apparently many exchanges about broken refrigerators and household appliances ended with this conclusion.
Their anti-gentrification work consists in bullying the petty bourgeois. Generally small business owners who are perceived as gentrifiers are targeted. For example they are targeting a cafe for offering cat cuddling services. To be fair once they targeted this cafe for gentrification the local alex jones crew called them out on it and as a result it has become an anti-fascist struggle against cat cuddling neo-nazis.
In another instance a cafe owner who was building a shop near a trailer park was dragged out of her store and a number of maoists held a struggle session against her until she came to the point of mental breakdown. I believe there are pictures of her in the fetal position being yelled at by Serve the People and RGA comrades somewhere.
Red Guards LA has similar efforts. Generally though their tone is a bit less militant and from my perception they seem to be better at building community relationships. Though apparently until recently it was quite the boys club with men calling "dibs" on potential recruits to make their girlfriends. But more or less they're quite similar in practice they have serve the people programs and they have "Save Boyle Heights". Which largely consists in disrupting art venues which open up in the area and propagandizing against "bourgeois art" and artists. They have posted a number of articles on their practice and a fair amount of it is interesting so I would recommend reading up about it.
Now in terms of what I think of them. They are active that is no doubt and they orient towards the correct people, the working class neighborhoods of Austin. However their political work is crude volunteerism maintained by hyper discipline which I can not imagine is healthy. Some of these comrades do political work from 8 in the morning till 6 or 7. All work and no play does a good gonzaloite make apparently. Speaking of such I'd argue that most of their volunteerism stems from their gonzalo admiration. All of their organizations are bent to propagating towards people and recruiting them yes but I don't see attempts at organizing the working poor. Organizing on behalf of them yes, by giving them free food and harassing gentrifies but not organizing them into tenant unions, solidarity networks, trade unions, or any other form of organizations where average people fight for their issues by themselves for themselves.
Ah yes. The party of good boys that the LC-NCP split from. Cheeky chaps those MCGers are!
This was the other, less sucessful and noteworthy, attempt at building a Maoist Party. Unlike the LC-NCP and to a lesser extent the red guards and even a lesser extent the PYO, they are quite quiet about themselves. The Richmond branch who ran signalfire.org and used to do prison work left. There was a polemic online but it was deleted, probably out of some notion of democratic centralism. Now I hear they are all about defunct.
"Mass Proletariat" is the Boston branch which my Boston comrade who is quite active didn't know existed until they published their split documents. They published a document which was a veiled jab at RGA. RGA responded and they have remained quiet ever since disdaining online communication as they do. I could probably ask my Boston comrade what is up with them though to be honest I'm hardly interested. Quite a bore those MCP chaps are
Now if you're wondering why the MCG lost its branches largely because the other branches accused them of not communicating with them and of doing nothing. It's quite true that the NYC chaps are a bit recluse. I have comrades from every walk of life from sex workers to palestinians to former criminals living in every borough of the city and they have told me they've never seen the MCG once!
Which made me think they were just monastery holed up in some graduate school library somewhere reciting Das Kapital and self-flagellating but they recently released a 70 page summation of their work on tenant and worker organizing thus far and I must say if what they are saying about their tenant organizing is true then it is probably some of the best organizing on the American left if not the American left. I highly recommend you look at their website and find it. Not the 3 documents of the MCG. All three of those documents are written in liturgical church Latin and can only be comprehended by His Holiness himself.
They're going strong. I met one of their leading members once and he's a solid communist of good repute well liked by all. There's a new article out in the bourgeois press about them it'll tell you more or less everything worth knowing.
This is the cadre formation that formed after the dissolution of the LC. Previously the PYO was led by a person who was supposed to be the local liaison to the national LC although the LC did not have a branch in Kansas. The RG criticized them and argued quite correctly in my opinion that one man cadre formations are quite strange so out of it the Revolutionary collective was formed. As of now it's a tiny propaganda group but it's a step in the right direction
They're probably the main competitor for Maoism in the US to the RGs. The St Louis Progressive Student Organization formed a Revolutionary Collective instead of an RG. If I were to bet why it's probably because the RC's generally don't hold as high esteem for President Gonzalo as the RGA and RGLA have. Moreover there was an incident where the main student leader in st Louis, a black man, was called out by the leader of the RGA for being impolite and "uncomradely. This comrade being white, and this comrade refusing to admit any rudeness on his own behalf. After a long time of refusing to self-criticize the St Louis comrade conceded to avoid furthering the rift and published a lengthy 3 page essay apologizing for his rudeness. The RGA comrade on the otherhand has written nothing on the matter, other than that his occasional bad manners are the result of a tobacco withdrawal. You can read the subtext of that yourself if you'd like
Richmond comrades who used to do prison work and got burnt out and decided to drop Maoism. More or less a good amount of them have moved forward with their lives though some of them still do work as an eclectic formation. I don't recall what it's called off the top of my head I could find it later.
The short answer is no.
the longer answer is God No
the complete answer I'll give with the RSCC and NCP-LC dissolution details when this is moved to chit chat.
I'm not aware of a single Maoist organization that is attempting to make national inroads. Most of them are oriented towards their local scene. That doesn't completely answer your questions but I'm afraid I'm not at full liberties.
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You said you would answer anything... Why do you prefer Maoism?
"I am vegan because I have compassion for animals; I see them as beings possessed of value not unlike humans. I am an anarchist because I have that same compassion for humans, and because I refuse to settle for compromised perspectives, half-assed strategies and sold-out objectives. As a radical, my approach to animal and human liberation is without compromise: total freedom for all, or else."
"It takes no more time to be a vegetarian than to eat animal flesh.... When non-vegetarians say ‘human problems come first’ I cannot help wondering what exactly it is that they are doing for humans that compels them to continue to support the wasteful ruthless, exploitation of farm animals."
