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    Originally posted by DarkAngel@Mar 3 2004, 10:08 PM
    But you did the exact same thing, you said that enviromentalism and meat eating are mutually exclusive, and therefore all meat eating enviromentalists are fakes. Get your story straight please.
    Get your facts straight, I never said that.

    Plus, vegitarianism doesn't actually change anything, but buying free range, locals meats and shooting your own does.

    Vegitarianism is ignoring the problem, support of the above is solving it.
    How is vegitarianism ignoring the problem? Every vegitarian saves thousands of animals (cattle, fish ect.) in their life time. In turn big business loses business, as demand for meat lowers.
    Err sorry, but you clearly did the moment you supported this statement: -

    Think you can be a meat-eating enviromentalist?

    Think again!


    Just like I would call you a Nazi if you came to the defence of someone who states that jews should be gassed.

    Every vegitarian saves thousands of animals (cattle, fish ect.) in their life time.

    No they dont, these animals would be dead anyway, they would just be eaten by someone else, or turned into a rug or something.

    In turn big business loses business, as demand for meat lowers.

    Nope, the demand for animal products is not reliant on the food industry. Like I said if you dont eat a burger you can guarantee that the cow would be dead anyway because of the leather industry, etc.
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    And I really don't think anyone wants to save beef cows anyway...their existance is horrible. We want to make is so that they are never born in the first place!
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    We created beef cows through thousands of years of selective breeding. They wouldn't survive in the wild anyways. They life to be eaten! Don't take away that cow's lives purpose!
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    Originally posted by MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr@Mar 4 2004, 10:22 PM
    We created beef cows through thousands of years of selective breeding. They wouldn't survive in the wild anyways. They life to be eaten! Don't take away that cow's lives purpose!
    Aww, he's trying to sound like an animal-lover.
    I'm sure the cow would have a "mid-life crisis" of sorts if you took away it's job.

    Cute. <_<
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    Also, what about the all the animals killed in grain harvesting?
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    DARK ANGEL

    DO YOU G%ROW YOU OWN VEG?

    or do you pay someone to kill them for you?

    you havent addressed my post, i still don&#39;t see an answer regarding. ANIMALS BEING EQUAL?
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    Get someone to kill them?&#33;

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    yes xphile i am a vegetable rights activist.

    definition of a living thing something with cells

    plants have cells too,
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    Originally posted by XPhile2868@Mar 5 2004, 12:24 PM
    Get someone to kill them?&#33;

    "No, mr lettuce, thats not a knife behind my.....*stabs lettuce*...oops, yes it is*
    I can almost hear the crisp crunchy sound as the stainless steel blade enters the lettuce... mmm
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    O the inhumanity&#33;&#33;&#33;
    I do listen to a lot of hip-hop myself, but as I said on Che-Lives I would get rid of all my CDs if Kim Jong Il told me. - Chairman Mao

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    MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr grow the fuck up. No one, I repeat no human being can survive without vegtables, meat on the other hand your better of without.

    Err sorry, but you clearly did the moment you supported this statement: -

    Think you can be a meat-eating enviromentalist?

    Think again&#33;
    I&#39;m sorry, but refresh my memory...

    And I really don&#39;t think anyone wants to save beef cows anyway...their existance is horrible. We want to make is so that they are never born in the first place&#33;
    -Thats you opinion. You can&#39;t speak for everyone in the world.


    We created beef cows through thousands of years of selective breeding. They wouldn&#39;t survive in the wild anyways. They life to be eaten&#33; Don&#39;t take away that cow&#39;s lives purpose&#33;
    -Their purpose? So whats ours?


    Every vegitarian saves thousands of animals (cattle, fish ect.) in their life time.

    No they dont, these animals would be dead anyway, they would just be eaten by someone else, or turned into a rug or something.

    In turn big business loses business, as demand for meat lowers.

    Nope, the demand for animal products is not reliant on the food industry. Like I said if you dont eat a burger you can guarantee that the cow would be dead anyway because of the leather industry, etc
    If you don&#39;t eat a burger, yes that cow is dead anyway. But your still taking profit away from the business. Slowly people might decide to do the same thing, profit lowers, chains star to close.

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    vegetarians are rascist bastards, victamising plants/vegetables.

    Its a good point that was kind of made in a joking way, plants/vegetables ARE alive just like animals, yes, when you cut them from the ground and eat them they die.

    Vegetarianism is the hight of stupidity.
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    Why the double standard though? Why should you treat an animal any differently then a poor hapless vegetable? If you shut the meat industry down, and replace it with overpriced all natural vegetables, the capitalists will laugh all the way to the bank. In capitalism, taking businuss away from one industry means giving businuss to another. Either way, you have to eat, they win. Nothing will EVER change unless it has no choise. It will be a snowday in hell before I stop eating meat, so I will be VERY pissed if by some fluke of nature, you vegetarians actually succeed in your rediculous quest of morality.
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    Artificial gamma ray bursters can sterilise entire parsecs. Now THAT&#39;s a deterrent&#33; - NoXion

    I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel

    Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che

    Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr&#33; - The Anarchist Tension

    And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke

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    Originally posted by MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr@Mar 6 2004, 05:55 PM
    Why the double standard though? Why should you treat an animal any differently then a poor hapless vegetable? If you shut the meat industry down, and replace it with overpriced all natural vegetables, the capitalists will laugh all the way to the bank. In capitalism, taking businuss away from one industry means giving businuss to another. Either way, you have to eat, they win. Nothing will EVER change unless it has no choise. It will be a snowday in hell before I stop eating meat, so I will be VERY pissed if by some fluke of nature, you vegetarians actually succeed in your rediculous quest of morality.
    I would turn to canabulism.

    The only way the capitalist wont profit, no matter what we eat, meat or vegetables, would be if we lived in communism
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    Go out and find some hapless vegetarian and start munching away at them. Lol now thats what I call a vegetarian diet&#33;
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    I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel

    Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che

    Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr&#33; - The Anarchist Tension

    And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke

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    Originally posted by DarkAngel@Mar 6 2004, 05:25 PM
    Err sorry, but you clearly did the moment you supported this statement: -

    Think you can be a meat-eating enviromentalist?

    Think again&#33;
    I&#39;m sorry, but refresh my memory...

    And I really don&#39;t think anyone wants to save beef cows anyway...their existance is horrible. We want to make is so that they are never born in the first place&#33;
    -Thats you opinion. You can&#39;t speak for everyone in the world.


    We created beef cows through thousands of years of selective breeding. They wouldn&#39;t survive in the wild anyways. They life to be eaten&#33; Don&#39;t take away that cow&#39;s lives purpose&#33;
    -Their purpose? So whats ours?


    Every vegitarian saves thousands of animals (cattle, fish ect.) in their life time.

    No they dont, these animals would be dead anyway, they would just be eaten by someone else, or turned into a rug or something.

    In turn big business loses business, as demand for meat lowers.

    Nope, the demand for animal products is not reliant on the food industry. Like I said if you dont eat a burger you can guarantee that the cow would be dead anyway because of the leather industry, etc
    If you don&#39;t eat a burger, yes that cow is dead anyway. But your still taking profit away from the business. Slowly people might decide to do the same thing, profit lowers, chains star to close.

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    I&#39;m sorry, but refresh my memory...

    sorry it seems that your memory is beyond my help, your entire time in this thread has been spent slagging meat eaters and defendin that statment.
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    Originally posted by shyguywannadie@Mar 6 2004, 05:52 PM
    vegetarians are rascist bastards, victamising plants/vegetables.

    Its a good point that was kind of made in a joking way, plants/vegetables ARE alive just like animals, yes, when you cut them from the ground and eat them they die.

    Vegetarianism is the hight of stupidity.


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    It is a joke. (haha?) Some people happen to think the same thing about vegetarians.
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    i bet ur all like 40 and boring and not happy&#33; - glamgirl610

    Perhaps, we should initiate a movement: Let the American soldiers go home crosses the Christmas day?... - @[email protected]@

    Artificial gamma ray bursters can sterilise entire parsecs. Now THAT&#39;s a deterrent&#33; - NoXion

    I was only trying to defend the south pole - DarkAngel

    Didnt you hear the about the devestation GM food had on farmers in India? They basically committed mass suicide due to the GM seeds they used. - Senora Che

    Cuba is also really shit...so is Leninism and MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr&#33; - The Anarchist Tension

    And the Greeks were tan and brown not white. They could not have just made up their gods like that poped into their mind. -Comrade Zeke

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    I wish this topic would attract some more vegetarians besides Darkangel (no offense) so they could shut these fucking dumbasses up
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    i just dont see any real reason to stop eating meat.

    saying its bad for you is not a reason to stop. we drink alcohol, thats bad for us but we drink it anyway.

    saying killing animals is wrong is not a reason. vegetarians kill plants, its the same differance.

    I will not change because of other peoples lack of knowledge or their derranged morality.
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