Attacks in Paris

[Armchair Partisan]

From Spain to the hills of Macedonia, from Gibraltar to the Aegean. A new iron curtain has descended across the continent...

Its ironic how western Europeans constantly insist that they are the shining beacon of freedom and equality. But when emigrants from the war-torn middle east come to Europe to seek asylum from the wars that western Europe started in the first place. They instantly decline any asylum seekers. Apparently western European nations apparently don't have enough ''freedom'' to pass around.

Eh, there is a logic to it. From the bourgeois nationalist perspective, a nation state is only responsible for the well-being of its own citizens, and thus the well-being of refugees and other migrants and foreigners are ignored unless it is expedient to look out for them or integrate them into the nation. It is a completely different paradigm compared to socialist internationalism and the idea that the worker has no country, and thus it's hard to argue against it in the abstract without selling the whole socialist package along with it - and why liberals find it hard to argue against the national-conservative right with what are more often than not just appeals to emotion. If one does not oppose the idea of nationalism and the nation state, admitting refugees en masse does not make sense, except for the other liberal argument, which proposes turning them into an obedient, easily controlled underclass that can do menial jobs.

[Comrade Jacob]

Awful events but somehow more important than the constant slaughter of people in the middle east according to the reaction of facebook warriors.

[Aslan]

Your right, I just really wanted to poke fun at Churchill and Neo-Liberalism

edit: 3 attacks in 1 year? Remind me to never go to paris.

[olahsenor]

I imagine my son or daughter to be the innocent victims. Terrible what terrorism has wrought on mankind and it will not stop.

[Aslan]

Stocks have apparently dropped like a rock since the Friday the 13th attacks.

[ckaihatsu]

Stocks have apparently dropped like a rock since the Friday the 13th attacks.

But what can we do to buoy the world's exchange values -- ?


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[Full Metal Bolshevik]

Your right, I just really wanted to poke fun at Churchill and Neo-Liberalism

edit: 3 attacks in 1 year? Remind me to never go to paris.

You're more likely to get shot in your country than get killed by a terrorist attack in Paris.

[PhoenixAsh]

Falling trees kill more people annually than terrorism.

Anyway. Tell me again how these attacks are anything different from the French bombing if civilian targets?

What is truly sickening though is the fact that these attacks show how racially biased everybodies morality is. Only the rare exception changed their facebook profile picture to the Lebanese flag and nobody else seems to have even acknowledged these attacks happening.

Not only that...and changing your profile picture to a flag not only looks incredibly stupid. But you are also outright endorsing that countries policies. Including the grave human rights violations within France itself and those France has committed and commits abroad.

[khad]

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.686257

While a lot of Iraqi intel reports read as total bullshit, these rumblings have the air of truth. It's become increasingly clear that this operation was planned and directed from the top. Not only were the attackers in phone contact with ISIS handlers overseas, but they had at least on guy who was sent to France after doing a tour with the Islamic State in Syria. Significant change in tactics.

The dispatch said the Iraqis had no specific details on when or where the attack would take place, and a senior French security official told the AP that French intelligence gets this kind of communication "all the time" and "every day."

However, six senior Iraqi officials corroborated the information in the dispatch, a copy of which was obtained by the AP, and four of these intelligence officials said they also warned France specifically of a potential attack. Two officials told the AP that France was warned beforehand of details that French authorities have yet to make public.

Among them: that the Paris attacks appear to have been planned in Raqqa, Syria — the Islamic State's de-facto capital — where the attackers were trained specifically for this operation and with the intention of sending them to France.

The officials also said a sleeper cell in France then met with the attackers after their training and helped them to execute the plan.

There were 24 people involved in the operation, they said: 19 attackers and five others in charge of logistics and planning.

The officials all spoke anonymously because they are not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

[Бай Ганьо]

I'm still waiting for the first Charlie Hebdo cartoon making fun of the Paris massacre, like happened with the crash of the Russian passenger plane in Egypt. I doubt the French government would react on such a cartoon by indulgently saying that "journalists in France [are] free to express their opinions, but that they [do] not reflect the views of the French government". http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...054925078.html

[OnFire]

Awful events but somehow more important than the constant slaughter of people in the middle east according to the reaction of facebook warriors.

Most people who follow the mainstream news tend to not care for "fires in furnace".

I hope we all agree that every religious violence is archreactionary and should be condemned, no matter who is targeted.

[xtrmntr]

sad loss of innocent life.

but i just don't get some people calling for further bloodshed. do they not learn ? the clue is in their name -- ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria).

two countries that have been targeted for western interventionism and military action and both countries left in ruins (same as libya were ISIS also have a smaller influence). this is how ISIS came about .... a vacuum created .... yet still right-wing jingoists are saber rattling for more bloody war. it's as if they don't learn. a perpetual circle of conflict and chaos and a good money earner for the military industrial complex and a damn good distraction while the working class are being fucked over on a daily basis.

the calls for more policing and intelligence funding brings the creeping police state and the next-door neighbour even closer.
call me cynical .....

[ckaihatsu]

Yeah, watch out! -- the Western powers are now 'tacitly miffed' at ISIS....

[OnFire]

Friendly GER-NED which was scheduled to take place today at 20:45 in Hanover was just cancelled due to terror alert. Seems like Daesh is active in Germany now. Also GSG9 is reported to be on the scene.

http://m.taz.de/Deutschland---Niederlande/!5254095;m/

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

It's obvious that this silly French flag business on facebook, and the crocodile tears of people like Madonna (Why the fuck is she breaking down in tears on stage ffs?) are absurd. I think, though, that equally dangerous is the reaction of some people who take up a contrary position in response; it's clear that this attack has been pretty devastating to many people and is pretty awful. And I don't think it's wrong to say that, as long as you keep in mind the obvious point that it's not just white wealthy Europeans who are suffering under terrorism.

And yeah, it is really fucking irritating that people still think going to war to end war is a viable policy decision. Especially if said decisions take advantage of people's obvious emotional states in the aftermath of an awful terror attack.

[ckaihatsu]

What some people are *still* missing is that this is all a *geopolitical* thing going on, the extension of the neoconservative 'shit list' (PNAC) -- as against Syria -- and the international schism that's created as long the U.S. and NATO consider it to be a legitimate agenda for foreign policy. (If Syria is demonized then that puts Iran and Russia on the 'other side' and invites GCC-backed fundamentalism and terrorism, as from ISIS / Saudi Arabia.)

[blake 3:17]

France's state of emergency may last months
Hollande to propose changes to constitution such as increased surveillance and stripping citizenship amid safety threat.

French President Francois Hollande will present a bill to extend the state of emergency in France, as well as propose severe amendments to the constitution in light of a recent wave of attacks in Paris that killed at least 129 people.

The French leader said on Monday, in an exceptional joint gathering of parliament, that he would make the proposals on Wednesday and parliamentarians would vote on them before the end of the week.

Friday's "acts of war ... were decided and planned in Syria, prepared and organised in Belgium [and] perpetrated on our soil with French complicity", he said, speaking in Versailles, south of Paris.

"I have asked the prime minister to prepare constitutional amendments," he added.

Those amendments include exceptional measures such as stripping the citizenship of convicted terrorists, increased surveillance, and "more sophisticated methods" to curb weapons trafficking.

He proposed measures to speed up the expulsion of foreigners considered a threat to public order, strip binational citizens who carry out acts hostile to national security of French citizenship, and bar binationals considered a terrorism risk from entering French territory.

"We must change our constitution to act against terrorism," he said.

He also announced an increase in police recruitment and a halt to layoffs in the army during the 50-minute speech.

Al Jazeera's Jacky Rowland, reporting from Paris, said: "The new constraints in effect limit civil liberties in France, but Hollande is trying to persuade French people that these are essential if he is to be able to protect the nation against the kind of attacks we saw last Friday."

full story & link: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/1...155912054.html

[Aslan]

You're more likely to get shot in your country than get killed by a terrorist attack in Paris.

I'm more likely to get kicked in the balls by a dwarf in a Christmas elf costume than to get attacked by a terrorist.

[willowtooth]

#fuckparis is trending......lol

http://www.citypages.com/news/the-fu...a-fury-7836574

[Rafiq]

Of course that is in horrible taste. But you know what? I will not dismissively condemn those black people who feel the need to say #fuckparis.

Think about what happened this year: With all the events occurring in Mizzou, with black lives matter, with all the anti-austerity momentum: All of these was overshadowed by more, cliche'd and obnoxious liberal 'human rights' bullshit. Of course many would be angry about it: Of course the Paris attacks were acts of barbarism. But how they are being articulated is barbaric: On one hand you have conservatives harking for the blood of more innocents, and on the other hand, you have this:

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This kind of liberal "tolerance", i.e. "We won't stoop to their level", of course we commend it if we juxtapose it to the disgusting filth that has brewed. But ultimately, the generosity of the liberals to "tolerate" the Muslims despite ISIS is riddled with a kind of black mail: What fascinates me is that - if our democratic (even bourgeois democratic!) standards were intact, our real liberal standards, it would not even cross our minds no one would actually have to constantly keep saying "Not all Muslims" and whatever.

The "not all Muslims" cliche is worthless political correctness, it's no different from a liberal who says "Well not all blacks are criminals" while pathologically still associating them with that by merit of the fact that many are concentrated in miserable, poverty stricken ghettos. Likewise, yes, many poor and marginalized Muslims ARE attracted to religious fundamentalism, the question is, why? When push comes to shove, the bourgeois ideologues will succumb and say "It's because their culture" or whatever. We Communists on the other hand recognize a different truth: It is because we have not made ourselves as Communists a formidable alternative, of course, not because we haven't 'compromised" with their religion and culture, but because on the contrary, we have not addressed the specific ills which make this identity important for them.

We should condemn #fuckparis, but we should not be disgusted by it. Liberals are deep-seated racists and reactionaries who guise this feeling with political correctness? Fine, we will do the same: Instead of #fuckparis, we should say: We will not allow the opportunist liberals to turn the underlying problems of our present epoch into another false opposition between "extremist fundamentalism" and "moderate human rights liberalism". We are Communists. We are "extremists", and if our true potentials were unleashed we would scare those cowardly Islamists shitless, just as we horrified and terrorized the Fascists up to the events of WWII.

The Islamists are cowards, I know it's a cliche, but think about it: do you know how TERRIFYING we would be to them, our prerogative to abolish the family, sexual emancipation, destruction of religion, abolition of private property? When Islamists, even these types, talk about economic concerns, they sound like any "moderate" bourgeois ideologue, being "balanced", letting things go their natural course, ETC. They are cowards. During WWII, Stalin famously remarked that (to paraphrase him): Hitler is not the powerful beast some worthless piece of shit pseudo-intellectuals have made him out to be. We should repeat Stalin: The Islamists are not as powerful as those worthless pseudo-intellectual, "clash of culture" scum make them out to be, from scum like Sam Harris to that fucker Dawkins. They are fascinated by Fascists (whether Islamist or otherwise) for good reason: Religious fundamentalism (or nationalist passions, ETC.) and liberal tolerance are TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. Fascism is powerful precisely because it designates at, but does not strike at THE SOCIAL ANTAGONISM. We are the ones who make the chickens come home to roost, we the Communists, we are the demons that they must mimic to gain the popularity and the edge they have. And for all intensive purposes: Do you understand that it was the New Left terrorism of the 70's which was the forerunner to modern Islamist terrorism? Of course, people like the RAF, etc. would have never killed ordinary people like this, but you get the point: The "horror" That it invokes in liberals has little to do with any concern for the lives of ordinary people, but the fact that it is "extreme", etc.