2016 US Presidential Election

[ElHombreTorpe]

Yeah so is anybody else in the US moving to Canada if Jeb Bush or Donald Trump somehow are elected President of the United States? I know I am. Let's all form a grand exodus from the states and It'll be awesome.

Anyway, that is all.
Sincerely,
El Hombre Torpe

[ChangeAndChance]

Two points here:
one: when the hell has anybody actually done that ever other than embittered Vietnam war vets and draft dodgers?
two: if you havent noticed, we are just as dumb as the voting public in America. We have a Conservative government and our upcoming election is nothing more than a chance for them to restake their claim over the country for the next five years. Our left is almost as crippled as America's. You have the Liberals (petit bourgeois scum), the NDP (which started out as a major progressive party but is now barely distinguishable from the Liberals), and the ultra-obsolete Green Party. Each party is moving further and further to the right each year and they show no signs of stopping.

In conclusion, the only thing you'll get from moving up here is cooler weather and a mediocre universal health care system. Also the dollar's down so we're heading for a recession.

[Cliff Paul]

Don't have the money to just pick up shit and move to Canada. Also I don't have a college degree or a technical skill so those assholes probably wouldn't even let me.

[willowtooth]

Canada is awful if I were to leave the states it would be too Uruguay, Belize, The Netherlands, or Cuba, maybe Swaziland

[ElHombreTorpe]

Two points here:
one: when the hell has anybody actually done that ever other than embittered Vietnam war vets and draft dodgers?
two: if you havent noticed, we are just as dumb as the voting public in America. We have a Conservative government and our upcoming election is nothing more than a chance for them to restake their claim over the country for the next five years. Our left is almost as crippled as America's. You have the Liberals (petit bourgeois scum), the NDP (which started out as a major progressive party but is now barely distinguishable from the Liberals), and the ultra-obsolete Green Party. Each party is moving further and further to the right each year and they show no signs of stopping.

In conclusion, the only thing you'll get from moving up here is cooler weather and a mediocre universal health care system. Also the dollar's down so we're heading for a recession.

Well, I guess Mexico is niceish XD

[ComradeViktor]

Canada is awful if I were to leave the states it would be too Uruguay, Belize, The Netherlands, or Cuba, maybe Swaziland

Netherlands? Swaziland? Why in hell would you go to either of those places? I understand if you disagree with Canada on a an ideological basis, but those two countries are more reactionary then a USA ran by Donald Trump. Netherlands is essentially the birthplace of modern capitalism, and Swaziland is a primitive, impoverished Absolute Monarchy. Netherlands may have a desirable living standard, but if you hate Canada, you'll dread Swaziland.

[Lord Testicles]

Netherlands? Swaziland? Why in hell would you go to either of those places? I understand if you disagree with Canada on a an ideological basis, but those two countries are more reactionary then a USA ran by Donald Trump. Netherlands is essentially the birthplace of modern capitalism, and Swaziland is a primitive, impoverished Absolute Monarchy. Netherlands may have a desirable living standard, but if you hate Canada, you'll dread Swaziland.

Weed, magic mushrooms and windmills. What more do you want?

[redblackveg]

Why has nobody proposed a move to Bolivia; they're successfully keeping out some US imperialism.

Or...you could not run away from your home, like a coward, and instead 'fight 'to improve it for those who might not have the option of a whimsical exodus. This land is too beautiful and holds too many memories for me to run and leave it to the corporations.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

The idea that one should be compelled to improve the lot of her 'own' kind and homeland is the same argument right-wingers use to rail against freedom of movement and the right to asylum (e.g., "brain drain"). Nobody is less courageous than the homebody who, presented with the chance to jump the nation ship, defends his lack of ship jumping with the deluded beliefs that his compatriots are more deserving of his camaraderie than those off the ship, those not allowed aboard, that his sentimentalism justifies benefiting from a legacy of settler colonialism, and that that ship does not deserve to sink (even though he can always reboard before it does). Imperialism gives citizens of imperialist nations the most powerful passports, in addition to favorable currency exchange rates in the Global South and underdevelopped world; what if the opportunities these provide were rerouted towards genuine internationalist ends--why must these be limited to tourism, eco-Zapaturismo, and tax evasion? The Harlem Renaissance's Parisian fraction and German Exilliteratur could be exempla for a new wave of ship jumpers (wavejumpers?) , brave enough to truly embrace bleak lands (seas?) of inopportunity. A problem is that the social prison of neoliberalism, though intolerable, is certainly more global than Jim Crow and Nazism.

[ACME_MAN]

Thanks for the insights. Liberals in the US are concentrated mostly in the cities and on the coasts. In terms of real estate held, they dwarf what conservatives hold if one goes by past county Presidential election results. Even if a liberal were elected President, I don't believe they could effectively govern because of this very fact. Carter was a one-termer and Clinton managed to get re-elected because he moved to the center after being initially elected.

Two points here:
one: when the hell has anybody actually done that ever other than embittered Vietnam war vets and draft dodgers?
two: if you havent noticed, we are just as dumb as the voting public in America. We have a Conservative government and our upcoming election is nothing more than a chance for them to restake their claim over the country for the next five years. Our left is almost as crippled as America's. You have the Liberals (petit bourgeois scum), the NDP (which started out as a major progressive party but is now barely distinguishable from the Liberals), and the ultra-obsolete Green Party. Each party is moving further and further to the right each year and they show no signs of stopping.

In conclusion, the only thing you'll get from moving up here is cooler weather and a mediocre universal health care system. Also the dollar's down so we're heading for a recession.

[ACME_MAN]

You don't want Swaziland. Believe over 90% of the population there earns under 10000 per year.

Canada is awful if I were to leave the states it would be too Uruguay, Belize, The Netherlands, or Cuba, maybe Swaziland

[ACME_MAN]

Nearly 90% of Bolivians earn less than $10000 a year. Not a good country to go to in terms of wealth distribution.

Why has nobody proposed a move to Bolivia; they're successfully keeping out some US imperialism.

Or...you could not run away from your home, like a coward, and instead 'fight 'to improve it for those who might not have the option of a whimsical exodus. This land is too beautiful and holds too many memories for me to run and leave it to the corporations.