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    Question Do you believe in god(s)? Poll #VI

    It is time to restart the poll to get new viewpoints and to see how/if beliefs of users have changed. Do you believe God, or perhaps several gods? Vote!

    See also the previous polls, which ran from 2004 to 2006, 2006 to 2008, 2008 to 2010, 2010-2012 and 2012-2015.

    If any discussions were interrupted, please continue them here.

    Results of the last poll which had a total of 409 voters:

    Yes 92 - 22.49%
    No 258 - 63.08%
    Uncertain 59 - 14.43%
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    I am a God in the depths of my own thought. So yes.
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    The earlier polls were a different question. "Is there a God(s)?" and "Do you believe in God(s)?" are different questions. To the former, I say "I don't know.", to the later I say "No".
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    Not only god exists, but he is alive and speaks Spanish.

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    I am a cultural pagan so I see the Gods as simply a metaphor for aspects of humanity.
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    Uncertain and have little desire to know.

    I feel like I need to focus on the world around me and try to make it a better place. If a god is real, then I hope I have it's blessing. If it's not, then whatever. It's not something I think about anymore.
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    I voted uncertain. I don't think any deity that might exist is anything like any god that humanity believes in, but at the same time it is a possibility. However, as far as we know, death is final so if there is no afterlife then any deity that might exist would be unnecessary and certainly there would be no logical reason to worship her/him/it/they as they have no known effect on our world.
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    I'm not so bold as to claim that I know for a fact whether or not God exists. My opinion is that he doesn't exist. But what I can claim for a fact is that, until some literal evidence in favor or in opposition of God's existence presents itself, the question is rather irrelevant.
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    “Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man?” - old but gold.

    Even if there was a god, I would not praise him/her.
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    I think so but, given the complexity of Trinitarianism, I have no idea how such a deity functions.
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    I am a cultural pagan so I see the Gods as simply a metaphor for aspects of humanity.
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    I still agree with what I said here to some degree but I do believe in the Gods.
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    The God according to religious dogma? Most likely no. Is there a God outside the boundaries of human imagination? Possibly. If so, he is cruel and doesn't serve justice in the material world.
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    No gods.
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    I don't believe in god or a man in the heavens that watches above all.
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    No I don't. I'm not even really interested in this question either. It's meant to be one of those "big" questions people are supposed to be interested in, but really, there's no evidence whatsoever to even suggest a deity exists, and that's all there is to it.
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    Not only god exists, but he is alive and speaks Spanish.

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    if you believe god is some big white dude with a beard, sitting on a cloud in the sky, no offense. But you must have severe autism
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    if you believe god is some big white dude with a beard, sitting on a cloud in the sky, no offense. But you must have severe autism
    Great analysis on how religion developed. I guess half the world has "severe autism".
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    I think when you are looking at the god and gods thing the general modern orthodox and in fact a-historical view is that God is an omnipotent interventionist; I think the technical term is intercessionist.
    As regards christianity, as an example, it’s post 6th century theological position was that; as with the divine right of kings etc which was revised somewhat with the economic calvinistic notion of providence and grace etc.

    The first materialists eg Democritus and Epicureans where described as Atheists, by the Christians and Roman pagans etc, not so much because they didn’t believe in god(s).

    But because god(s) couldn’t be involved in the grubby reality of the material world we live in and would be above all and could not be responsible that kind of thing.

    The whole argument is of course predicated or premised on the concept of god or gods.

    The argument was done neatly, ‘logically’, and as it turns out apolitically, trans-historically by Steven Fry recently re ‘all creatures great and small’.

    “Yes, the world is very splendid but it also has in it insects whose whole lifecycle is to burrow into the eyes of children and make them blind. They eat outwards from the eyes. Why? Why did you do that to us? You could easily have made a creation in which that didn’t exist. It is simply not acceptable.
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    Just before the emergence of christianity, immediately after 6AD when Judea etc was fully incorporated into the Roman socio-economic system, the Judaic community was faced with yet another problem.
    There own interventionist omnipotent god had abandoned them, yet again, to the biggest and most successful overwhelming bunch of gobshites yet.
    Some of them weren’t stupid and recognized it as something different from their previous parochial analysis of minor setbacks and the temporary punishment of god etc.
    The Judiac apoplectic movement of the time thus promoted Satan from an imp like temptationist, like the witches in Macbeth, into a ruler of the earth and material world which had an impact on the development of very early proletarian christianity.
    This isn’t just dingbat theology it is about new economic bases or positions, in this case new forms of imperialistic oppression, determining super-structual ideology.

    Or having to rethink things according to, and to accommodate, new realities that are in your face too much.

    The bastards are in charge.
    My god isn’t a bastard.
    Satan is a bastard.
    Ergo Satan is in charge.
    Why is another matter which tested the intellectual powers of the early christian Marcionites.
    The idea is preserved in Luke;
    5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendour; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...ch=Luke+4:1-13
    The idea translates into a class analysis ie the ruling class are servants of Satan and the worshippers of mammon etc whilst the poor etc are the children of god blah blah.





    God either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot, or can but does not want to, or neither wishes to nor can, or both wants to and can. If he wants to and cannot, then he is weak – and this does not apply to god. If he can but does not want to, then he is spiteful – which is equally foreign to god's nature. If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful, and so not a god. If he wants to and can, which is the only thing fitting for a god, where then do bad things come from? Or why does he not eliminate them?
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    Yes and I believe this which sums up a lot of what I believe. In addition to Christian Orthodoxy, I borrow some elements of Sufi/Shi'a thought and Qabbalah.
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