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Poll: Do you believe in god(s)?

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  1. #41
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    Yes, I believe in God because I experienced his wonder in my life.
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    It's just a naming convention. For example, let's say I had a dog that I named God - if I believe that my dog exists, then God exists. Let's say I invented a language in which "shell" translates into "wife", then if I believe my wife exists, then "my shell" exists.

    Let's say that I believed that everything under the following hashtag is visible only to the people it's meant for:
    #114seed
    how would eye even know this isnt visible 2 those its not meant 4
    maybe eye just have faith that those who r not ready 2 read this
    wont c it
    or else it would drive them insane xD
    in my shell
    eye m posting on n internet forum
    but perhaps from the perspective of some1 else on the outside
    looking in
    eye look like eye m just making internet cat memes
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    Believing in God is one thing, believing that there is a single divine tradition given to man by that God to guide us to wisdom, and that this tradition points towards the true nature of God, is something else.
    Socialist Party of Outer Space
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    i'm agnostic at the moment. (so clicked uncertain)
    i was brought up as a christian (catholic) but in a very non-religious household. the older i became the more athiest i got but personal circumstances has me looking for a maybe (or a hopefully) ....

    the thing is, there is evil. i witness/suffer it daily and what i keep reminding myself of is the quote by george clooney's character (seth gecko) in 'from dusk til dawn': ( )

    "And if there is a hell, and those sons of *****es are from it, then there has got to be a heaven... Jacob, there's gotta be."

    i see what can be defined as satan's work and hand all over but i have yet to be reassured or see/have god's touch on anything to counter this evil.
    (for the record, this above comment was by another account i created after i couldn't remember my log-in details for this account)

    what about black magic ? if it exists would that not prove the existence of otherworldly higher and powerful entities ?

    i've become increasingly convinced that such dark arts are real and that occultism is practised on a wide scale by the elite.
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    Voted Uncertain. I have long been an atheist and cin practice do not follow a religion or believe in god. I sympathise with atheistic satanism though because its morality is fairly materialist and compliments Marxism in some ways. But I'm not absolutely convinced there is no god and I do not feel I could prove that it is the case (though I would certainly like to just to settle the issue and be free of it).
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    Voted Uncertain. I have long been an atheist and cin practice do not follow a religion or believe in god. I sympathise with atheistic satanism though because its morality is fairly materialist and compliments Marxism in some ways. But I'm not absolutely convinced there is no god and I do not feel I could prove that it is the case (though I would certainly like to just to settle the issue and be free of it).
    I think the question to be asked is not so much "can we be sure that there really is no god?" but rather "why should we assume there is one in the first place?".

    As for satanism: I fail to see how this is conducive to emancipatory politics at all. Not saying there isn't some value to this impulse - for someone brought up in a spiritually suffocating environment where they were never allowed to state their own aims or wishes, a period of pure self-centeredness might be necessary to shatter those chains. But as an overall guiding principle? Satan is something like an alienated intellect: Someone who imagines themself to exist apart from the world. An example is in the Quran, where Satan, being pure spirit, refuses to embody himself in matter, because he will not accept the limitations this entails, and believes this would defile him. He holds the physical world in contempt. Including, of course, human beings, with all their weaknesses and imperfections.

    The "freedom" of Satan is ultimately an adolescent or aristocratic freedom.

    The Satanic Bible of LaVey is basically a fusion of Ayn Rand, Ragnar Redbeard, and the most elitist parts of Nietzsche. Atlas Shrugged - there's satanic morality in action. No thanks.
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    I'm uncertain although I have an interest in paganism and to a lesser extent Laveyan Satanism
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    Unmoved mover? Maybe...no way to know for sure. Bearded man up in the clouds? No chance.
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    I think the question to be asked is not so much "can we be sure that there really is no god?" but rather "why should we assume there is one in the first place?". As for satanism: I fail to see how this is conducive to emancipatory politics at all. Not saying there isn't some value to this impulse - for someone brought up in a spiritually suffocating environment where they were never allowed to state their own aims or wishes, a period of pure self-centeredness might be necessary to shatter those chains. But as an overall guiding principle? Satan is something like an alienated intellect: Someone who imagines themself to exist apart from the world. An example is in the Quran, where Satan, being pure spirit, refuses to embody himself in matter, because he will not accept the limitations this entails, and believes this would defile him. He holds the physical world in contempt. Including, of course, human beings, with all their weaknesses and imperfections. The "freedom" of Satan is ultimately an adolescent or aristocratic freedom. The Satanic Bible of LaVey is basically a fusion of Ayn Rand, Ragnar Redbeard, and the most elitist parts of Nietzsche. Atlas Shrugged - there's satanic morality in action. No thanks.
    you're probably right about atheism, that it is a question of why accept the possibility of a god at all. In the case of satanism, certain aspects of it are compatible with materialism and Marxism, though it can never be dominant because of the egotism, individualism and (right-wing) libertarianism. le vey wasn't really original (as far as I know), but its an interesting compilation of various ideas. it is useful to counter the legacy of christian morality of "forced" and insincere altruism, ethical hedonism as subversive to moral restrictions and attacking various hypocrisies and sharpen the edge on a militant atheist and materialist morality. I think it has some value as an attack on christian morality and to a lesser extent on liberal humanist morality (as derivative of it) but it can't be the whole picture. As I've never really read anything coming from the right and was influenced by Christianity as a kid, I still found it pretty thought provoking though.
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    I'm an atheist.
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    Satanists are National Socialists. All of them. The ones I've seen, at least. Destroy the weak. Dominate. Amelioration of the species. That type of shit. Fuck Satan and fuck satanism.

    Though I'm not religious, if you absolutely had to find a religious precept, then Book of Acts based Christianity is a 100% more compatible with communism than Satanism could ever be.

    Hold all things in common, to each as he has need, serve widows in their affliction, let he who is strongest be your servant, etc, etc. Satan with his "liberation of the strong" bullshit can go fuck himself.
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    Thank you, exactly^

    The church of Satan is kinda big among philly scene people and it's an obvious circle jerk for kids that want to relate to Sean Hannity but are fuckup, ugly mediocre outcastes from their families, nevertheless eagerly reproducing their inherited class entitlement rationalization impulses.
    As long as I recall, I've been incarcerated;
    Starved and guarded in darkness,
    And burned by inquisitors that charged me with arson.
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