Fear, love

[Guardia Rossa]

This is pure pseudo-science, the most common ways to identify them are: mixing up cause and consequence, use of common sense, direct conflict with real science.

[Ilstar]

Dude, OK, so, what role tmdo the chemicals in the brain hold in emotions?

Don't jump so many levels from chemicals to the central nervous system. The jump of complexity is so immense that you would never be able to integrate the two sufficiently to provide a basis for a living human being.

Chemicals in the brain are molecules. Emotions first happen on the level of tissues. What role do molecules play in tissues?

First you integrate molecules with crystal lattices into organelles, such as chromosomes, which hold you DNA, then you integrate organelles with cellular cytoplasm into cells, such as blood cells, then you integrate cells with cellular matrix into tissues, such as blood tissue. The electromagnetic wave that is the context of each of such tissues while it's living generates emotions.

Emotion is an experience that happens through your heart (this is not a metaphor). Thoughts go through the tissues of your nervous system. Thoughts start in your brain. They are the integrated interactions of neurons, aka their firings, within electromagnetic waves. Thoughts also initiate your emotions, that is, they start emotions but do not end or complete them.

Does the mainstream "science" care about tissues more than about molecules or cells? Not really. That's a problem. How come the only ones who do care are called "pseudoscientists"? The answer lies between molecules and organs, as I've shown.

The heart beating is a not the symbol of the feeling: It's preparation for physical exercise.
In the case, sex.
The love feeling, the pleasure, is one, the preparation for mating, is another, and the preparation for mating (and the mating itself) that brings the "heart beating fast"

What about the excitement you feel in preparation for sex? That's an emotion. And the pleasure you get from sex is also an emotion. Why dichotomize positive emotions? It doesn't matter whether you are feeling emotions before or during the mating experience, you are still feeling emotions, not mere thoughts, unless you are having an intercourse without much feeling.

[Luís Henrique]

When you are being mugged and scared out of your guts, are you thinking of your wife and kids (presumably in positive ways)? If you are not thinking about them, then how can you say that you don't stop loving them? If loving for you is mere thought (as is clear from your assumptions), then if you are not thinking of love, you cannot be loving at that time, correct? Otherwise, please provide your definition of love.

How often is the case that someone stops loving her husband to take a read at the newspaper, and then, having finished the reading, realises that she no longer loves her husband at all?

If the above is rare - and I would say it is - then love is something else than "mere thought".

I think you are confusing sexual arousement for love. And probably physical fear, as when someone points a gun at your face, for more complex modes of fear (such as when there are rumours of re-engineering in the company you work for, and you fear losing your job - in which case you go home and still love your wife and kids, albeit being scared of unemployment).

Luís Henrique

[Ilstar]

Yeah, I don't understand just loving in words (or thoughts). Do you come home to your spouse and kids and tell them that you "love them" and live with them happily ever after? I am talking about a real situation. The key word is situation. I don't care how you feel about your spouse or job in the long run, unless it produces emotions in the short run, like, right now.

You are confusing emotions with thoughts. Taking sexual arousement for love (considering that you want this kind of love) is so much more realistic.

The key question to ask in the situations you mention is this:
How does it affect your immediate emotions/relationship with your spouse? If there is no effect, it's not an emotion. Emotions are change, motion, energy, dynamism. Emotions are not stability, predictability, automatism, boredom.

You are right, the "modes" are indeed more complex but only because they are metaphysical and hence illusionary. I am looking for physical emotions, not the imaginary metaphysical ones you are talking about. When I love, I shouldn't say that "I love." Loving is showing your love, experiencing it, not merely reflecting or remarking on it in any way. A remark (or an initiation of thought about it) can kill true love. Words can kill emotions. However, words can also generate emotions, if you have none at the moment. I hope you feel something when you are reading this.