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    Is it just me, or are there a lot of fucking morons posting here lately?
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    National Socialism and Communism aren't enemies, more like rivals. Fascism is Italian.

    Some quotes that I like:

    "This man Hitler was even more ferocious. The more ferocious the better don't you think? The more people you kill, the more revolutionary you are." - Mao Zedong

    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." - Adolf Hitler

    "Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than good bourgeois order. Brutality is respected, the people need wholesome fear. They want to fear someone. They want someone to frighten them and make them shudderingly submissive." - Ernst Röhm

    "Death is the solution to all problems. No man - no problem." - Joseph Stalin

    "The only real power comes out of a long rifle." - Joseph Stalin

    "Let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands, and an infinite scorn in our hearts." - Benito Mussolini

    "For my part I prefer fifty thousand rifles to five million votes." - Benito Mussolini

    and the proof of the matter from the "Nazism" wikipedia page says:

    Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels had stressed the socialist character of Nazism, and claimed in his diary in the 1920s that if he were to pick between Bolshevism and capitalism, he said "in final analysis", "it would be better for us to go down with Bolshevism than live in eternal slavery under capitalism."
    Did you think before posting this? Are you literally fucking drawing parallels between two opposing ideologies? Fascism and communism are diametrically opposed, and to see any correlation between the two is a sign of some serious delusions and cognitive dissonance.
    "But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
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    Did you think before posting this? Are you literally fucking drawing parallels between two opposing ideologies? Fascism and communism are diametrically opposed, and to see any correlation between the two is a sign of some serious delusions and cognitive dissonance.
    Capitalism is the ultimate enemy of the two ideologies.
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    Is it just me, or are there a lot of fucking morons posting here lately?
    The more the attempts to discredit communism, the more the ruling class indicates they are in a state of panic.

    Just look at their attempts to outlaw cash - if that's not Magikarp flailing around, I don't know what is =D
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    Capitalism is the ultimate enemy of the two ideologies.
    Fascism is capitalism though. Fascism developed historically in failing capitalist states that were on the verge of communist upheaval. Fascists were the cudgel used to maintain the bourgeois state through naked force and state violence.
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    Well, we could say Nazism and Juche are more like rivals than enemies. Doesn't say anything about actual communism, though.
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    @Index: None of what you just pulled out of your ass has any relevance to the actual political (socioeconomic) conditions of Nazi Germany vs. a communist society, even if that's an accurate representation of Goebbels' views of Bolshevism.
    "I'm a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will." - Antonio Gramsci

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    Well, we could say Nazism and Juche are more like rivals than enemies. Doesn't say anything about actual communism, though.
    Juche is the new NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
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    There's a whole lot of horseshit... I mean horseshoe theory going on around here these days. No, come to think of it, horseshit sounds about right.

    Isn't there some kind of third-positionist forum you assholes could join?
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    So you are a National Socialist? Would you mind fucking off, please?
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    Im not going to abandon him as a friend because he is a nice guy, I just hope that I can get him out of this fascist phase as fast as possible.
    Another contradiction in terms. I'm a pretty tolerant guy, but no way in hell would I spend any more time than absolutely necessary with a holocaust denier. The guy might be nice as an individual, but his ideologies are flat-out psychopathic.

    Oh, and his stint with "individualist anarchism" should have been a warning sign. Those people are nuts, only one small step removed from anarcho-capitalists in my opinion.
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    There's a whole lot of horseshit... I mean horseshoe theory going on around here these days.
    National Socialism is SOCIALISM. National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party.
    Fascism is Italian. They are also ANTI-CAPITALIST.

    Feminism is bourgeois. The original feminism was all about gaining suffrage and jobs within a democratic CAPITALIST system. It still is about gaining rights WITHIN the CAPITALIST system.

    Anarchism is simply impossible. How will you defeat the zionist capitalist system (the longest lasting mafia in history) without absolute leaders and chain of command?

    Horseshoe theory usually is right. Joseph Stalin purged zionism from his country and was allied with Adolf Hitler. They were socialist twins.
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    Fascism is capitalism though. Fascism developed historically in failing capitalist states that were on the verge of communist upheaval. Fascists were the cudgel used to maintain the bourgeois state through naked force and state violence.
    Yeah, this is the typical argument, and to some degree it's true... but it's also dangerous.

    I don't think that we should pretend that "true" Communism is the opposite of fascism, and capitalism and fascism are the same thing. Communism can slip into fascism very easily, as can capitalism, if you let them. Fascism must be carefully avoided in any stage of political governance.
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    National Socialism is SOCIALISM. National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party.
    Fascism is Italian. They are also ANTI-CAPITALIST.

    Feminism is bourgeois. The original feminism was all about gaining suffrage and jobs within a democratic CAPITALIST system. It still is about gaining rights WITHIN the CAPITALIST system.

    Anarchism is simply impossible. How will you defeat the zionist capitalist system (the longest lasting mafia in history) without absolute leaders and chain of command?

    Horseshoe theory usually is right. Joseph Stalin purged zionism from his country and was allied with Adolf Hitler. They were socialist twins.


    Feminism is bourgeois. The original feminism was all about gaining suffrage and jobs within a democratic CAPITALIST system. It still is about gaining rights WITHIN the CAPITALIST system.


    This is just like a lot of other arguments I've seen on this site... "Anything even remotely associated with a capitalist context must be bourgeois." Some people on this site can spot bourgeois-ness in just about damn near everything. It's like a pre-canned response to any argument no one agrees with.... "I don't like this, it must be bourgeois!"

    But seriously, feminism is not bourgeois, it should be present in any political system. It might pander to capitalism in some of its forms, but it is not inherently "bourgeois".
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    Why do you keep pointing out that fascism is Italian? The fuck does that have to do with anything?

    I don't mind arguing about feminism or anarchism with people I have a modicum of respect for. I'm not going to waste my time discussing anything with a fucking half-wit, though.
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    Don't get me wrong, my ideology is simple. If you can hold a gun, point, and shoot the target then you're in. Woman, Man, Child, whatever. Feminism and identity politics in general are usually poisonous. Feminism divides the working class and never was present in the USSR, Third Reich, Maoist PRC, Democratic Kampuchea, DPRK, etc.
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    Why do you keep pointing out that fascism is Italian? The fuck does that have to do with anything?
    Because people keep throwing the word around as an epithet rather than having respect for what it is/was: an Italian revolutionary ideology that branched off into other ideologies (clerical fascism which I don't really like, integralism, etc).
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    Juche is the new NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
    National Socialism is SOCIALISM. National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party.
    Fascism is Italian. They are also ANTI-CAPITALIST.
    Feminism and identity politics in general are usually poisonous. Feminism divides the working class and never was present in the USSR, Third Reich, Maoist PRC, Democratic Kampuchea, DPRK, etc.
    I think at this point you need to fuck off.
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    The only argument against me is "fuck off" or "troll". I'm waiting on the banhammer.

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