I concur. Same reason they don't want to cure AIDS, hunger, deficits, and so fourth.
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i am almost positive that by now drug comapnies could've found a cure for cancer. The only reason they have not sold it yet is because they make too much off the treatments. if cancer no longer exist thye will lose tons of money.they found cures for smallpox and polio and they had mush less technology. maybe the cure is gone they probably destroyed it somewhere out in the rainforest.
Tell me what you think
I concur. Same reason they don't want to cure AIDS, hunger, deficits, and so fourth.
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I think you are absolutely wrong, unequivocally.
First of all cancer is not something they can create a vaccine or antibiotic for. It is a complicated disease that foils even the bodies own immune response. A cure would mean finding something that kills cancer and does not allow it to grow back, very tricky. They can already cure some cancers and it involves slowing killing the patient as well, not pretty but it works.
Cancer is not isolated to one set of circumstances or pre-destined biology, it can attack anyone any time. Having said that we have created a cancerous age like never before. We are now exposing ourselves to more chemicals and radiation then ever before, messing with our bodies in unimaginable ways.
If cancer was a disease it would be considerd to be in pandemic proprtions when you look at its unbelievable increase in the 20th centruy. This is not due to better detection or people living longer it is that we are posioning ourselves and our worlds.
Drug companies could undoubtedly be doing more to fund the research involved in finding a cure. They stand nothing to lose by patenting cures and selling them at the highest possible price.
But the bigger conspiracy is that the drugs we take, the food we eat, the hairdye we use, the tv we watch, the cars we drive and the plastics we wrap all of this in; are carcinogenic. Cure is one thing but prevention is the best option and nobody has any interest at all in looking at how to stop us from getting cancer.
Believe me with the increase in cancer, drug companies are champing at the bit to get a cure, they are going to make a fortune of it, 1 in 3 people in western countries are affected by cancer, thats a huge profit..... The trick is to make sure we keep getting cancer and we will as long as we allow technology to be released before proper testing is available (I cite DDT, PVC and thalidymide as great and extreme examples).
The most important thing is what is causing cancer not who is curing it?
There are definetly more carcinogens today than there were, sat, 200 years ago, but....conspiracy?
I highly doubt that you have any evidence for your "theories" or your assertation that somehow every aspect of the industrialized world is carcinogenic. Television? Tylenol?
I've heard conspiracy theories like this one before, as with yours, they are never backed up.
yes....it's all a massive conspiracy to give us all cancer.....
By the way, completely seperate subject, have you ever read up on paranoid schizophrenia?
Probably the Soviet Union..... maybe New Zealand.
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if cancer would be cured the globe would be over-populated...
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exactly! i believe it's the same thing with aids, sars, and in the end homosexuality! it will vanish after the population gets in normal measures. e.g., the same thing happened with the plague...
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anyways, i believe that the cure (if it was found) wasn't found in some public plase as hospital or so, but in some... let's say secret organisation
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if it was cured the world wouldn't be overpopulated becasue there would be some new disease that would come and brong the population back to normal size
"The money isn't in the cure, it's in the treatment" - Chris Rock, during his stand up "Bigger and Blacker"
What Rock said was meant to be a joke...but it seems to be a reality to me. I mean think about it, as a doctor, would you rather somebody pay you tons of money over an extended period or pay you a little money in one shot? The so called conspiracy runs much deeper than just money however. Personally I believe it is in the govn' best interest to not find a cure for whatever ails people. This is especially true for the western front seeing as we can hardly find the means to live with what we have (which is caused by greed and not by lack of food, water, etc. if thats what you think I mean), but imagine having to feed more and more people, as the population of our world swells to the breaking point.
The cure for cancer, AIDS, etc. is good for the individual, however it could be devastating to the world as a whole...
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I've got a secret for you, the government ain't that smart.
There are thousands of research teams, all across the world, working on Cancer. What you think the evil "government" is controlling them all? Which government? All of them???
That's paranoid.
If the "cure" to cancer were simple but just "hidden" by this "conspiracy", there would have been at least one indepdendent scientist who would have discovered it in the past 50 years.
I don't know if you have any knowledge in biology, but Cancer is a remarkably difficult problem to crack. I'm not going to go into specfics, but there are a lot of reasons that it is not an easy fix.
And if the "government" were engaged in such evil conspiratorial planning, why not do the same in other areas as well? Why did they allow polio to be cured? Why have a flu vaxine? Wouldn't it be better for "population control" to just let people die?
Finally, all of your assumptions seem to rest on a private medical model. I think this line: "as a doctor, would you rather somebody pay you tons of money over an extended period or pay you a little money in one shot?" sums it up nicely. Where I come from, that doesn't make any sense at all.
Pay doctors?!?!?!?!?! Who pays doctors?????
The fact is it would be nice to blame all the evils of the world on the "capitalists", but life is far more complex than that. Sometimes there are genuine problems in the world that have nothing to do with class. We don't know how to cure cancer, and all the conspiracy theories and angry assumptions won't change that.
I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do, so I leave it up to you...
http://www.aboutcancer.info/Carcinogenics/...cinogenics.html
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/safety/Carcinogenetclist.htm
http://www.agitprop.org.au/lefthistory/198...l_chemicals.htm
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/Products/Toxics/
Some of the any sites that list common chemicals and their know carcinogenic effects.
Certainly true.
True... But consider this: cancer is a relatively new "discovery". That is to say, even if it had existed before, doctors wouldn't have known about it. So many deaths attributed to plague or disease in the past may in fact have been cancer. Also, the world's population has risen exponentially over the past century - this will contribute to increased cases of cancer. Having said this, cancer RATES (cases as a % of population) have certainly risen too - there is merit in your suggestion.
I don't think there is a conspiracy, as such. I think companies use toxic or dangerous "ingredients" (rather inappropriate term, I know) simply because they are cheaper. Quite clearly ridiculous, yes, but logical for a corporation whose only function is to make money.
Shut it you tart. No need for that.
What IS normal size? 6 Billion? Far too many!! I think 2 billion is pushing it myself...
Don't be so hard on doctors. I think most doctors are in the profession to cure people, not make money. After all, they are impoverished students for seven years; no-one overly interested in profit could stomach that for so long!
> As I mentioned earlier, capitalist corporations use toxic chemicals because they're cheaper than alternatives...
> Toxic chemicals ALMOST CERTAINLY HAVE AN EFFECT on levels of cancer...
> Increased deaths from cancer can be attributed to greed on behalf of capitalists!
But in principle, I agree. There are problems which cannot be solved by a revolution alone!
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And I suppose homosexuality among dolphins is just an evolutionary method to keep their dangerously overpopulated numbers in check.
there is a modern cure for cancer
and it is the cure for every life threatening ailment known to every life form on this planet, even DEATH!!!
this miracle cure is due to the recent mapping of the human genome
we should be able to pop a pill and cure nearsightedness, cancer and skin blemishes within the decade
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this is not my theory, some scientist concluded that and it seemed interesting to me and very likely that could be the truth.Originally posted by Regicidal Insomniac@Feb 10 2004, 04:01 AM
And I suppose homosexuality among dolphins is just an evolutionary method to keep their dangerously overpopulated numbers in check.
homosexuality is fould even among some animal spieces which were in size bigger then the normal.
p.s. i'm not saying homosexuality is a disease!
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That might be true (I don't know anything about it), but I can't see a reason why they should let die away millions of people just because of making money. That's not human anymore. If there's a cure for something, let the sick people be cured!
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Oh please...ok yes there may be some doctors that actually do give a shit about what they are doing. However I live in Canada and I see the effects of money on doctors. Canadian doctors can, and do go to the US and make 2 times more money and do half the work they do here in Canada (therefore 4 times the $ if you are keeping score). We have a huge problem with shortages of medical personel here in Canada. I know alot of people that have no family doctor because of the lack thereof. In fact, just the other day a new doctor came into town and hundreds of people were in line to see if he would take them on as patients. So please don't say that they aren't motivated by money, because almost everybody in the western world is.
Back on the subject of cancer, I just find it really hard to believe that the medical world hasnt found a cure for any of these diseases (ie: AIDS, Cancer, etc.). Someone stated earlier that there were thousands of scientists working on these diseases. I know my idea might be a little far fetched, however I think it is even more ridiculous to think that the THOUSANDS of scientists have made little, to no progress in curing these maladies, especially considering that we have cured diseases with far less technology in the past.
oh and Lysergic, you seem to know alot about how hard it is to cure cancer...but for some reason you don't want to go into the details. You seem to dismiss everything that you don't agree with, which to be honest doesnt bother me. What does bother me is when you dismiss something without backing it up. I don't want to get into a war of words with you like alot of people tend to do on these boards, i'm just voicing my observations.
And whos to say the government isn't injecting people with maladies on a regular basis...hmmm...better stay away from those "flu shots" :P .
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I know two people studying medicine. Neither have particular desires for money. Of course, if they can still cure people and get a warm fuzzy feeling WHILST earning twice as much, they'd be fools not to. (In capitalist society, this is.) We have a shortage of doctors in the UK too. Because it's too much like hard work!!
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what about the doctor who was supposedly close to cure for some from of cancer and "mysteriously" died
