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    Well I've already posted a few things but I still feel like I should do one of these things... hi comrades.

    Firstly, no I'm not red or black, nor am I in anyway famous or some sort of celebrity 'star' *comedic drumroll*.

    I'm 17, I'm currently in my last year of College and going to University next year (woop) to study History and Politics. I find myself being drawn to Anarchism as an ideology but must admit that I have only read a few works of each thinker of each major ideology across the spectrum, so this may change. I still have yet to truly understand the differences between the different sub-ideologies in Anarchism, but I do have a vague idea of them; hopefully some of you fine people can help me out.

    What I'm basically saying? I see the world as it is, the one that's being left to my generation, and I'm becoming very, very pissed off. I'm attempting to turn that anger into something constructive to help build a better world, or at least the foundations of one, for my generation's successors. I'm learning fast but there's still so much more to learn so please have patience with me.

    Thanks and Viva La Revolution!
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    Is there anything specifically which draws you to anarchism, as contrasted to the other leftist ideologies? I see too many people becoming anarchists over Marxists merely because the latter has had the misfortune of being historically tied to authoritarianism. In fact, nobody should be afraid of being linked to that authoritarianism. Real Marxism has nothing to do with authoritarianism, but in any case outright rejection and endless propagandism against stuff like the Russian Revolution, rather than properly analyzing and constructively criticizing, is a problem. Nevermind the mass democracy created by workers' revolution and soviets...!

    Thanks and Viva La Revolution!
    No, no, comrade. It's actually ¡Viva la revolución!.
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    I'm young angry and Anarchist too. This Thanksgiving I was really distraught at my parents and grandparents defending state terrorism against Michael Brown. Particularly because Michael Brown committed a crime.

    What happened to looking at one's own sins? Anyway, welcome to the forum.
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    Thanks for the welcome.

    I find myself to be Anarchist purely because being a revolutionary socialist arrives either there or at Marxism. In spite of all Marx's genius I cannot, morally or logically, identify with his ideas of revolution (or at least the ones which I have read); this means both his method and post-revolutionary society. In contrast to this, although I have yet to fully learn about syndicalist structure, I quite like the sound of Anarcho-Syndicalism.

    I also have to say that, although I see the logic behind the Marxist view of history, I also see flaws.
    “If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin.
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    Well I've already posted a few things but I still feel like I should do one of these things... hi comrades.

    Firstly, no I'm not red or black, nor am I in anyway famous or some sort of celebrity 'star' *comedic drumroll*.

    I'm 17, I'm currently in my last year of College and going to University next year (woop) to study History and Politics. I find myself being drawn to Anarchism as an ideology but must admit that I have only read a few works of each thinker of each major ideology across the spectrum, so this may change. I still have yet to truly understand the differences between the different sub-ideologies in Anarchism, but I do have a vague idea of them; hopefully some of you fine people can help me out.

    What I'm basically saying? I see the world as it is, the one that's being left to my generation, and I'm becoming very, very pissed off. I'm attempting to turn that anger into something constructive to help build a better world, or at least the foundations of one, for my generation's successors. I'm learning fast but there's still so much more to learn so please have patience with me.

    Thanks and Viva La Revolution!
    Which uni are you doing your degree at?
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    I find myself to be Anarchist purely because being a revolutionary socialist arrives either there or at Marxism. In spite of all Marx's genius I cannot, morally or logically, identify with his ideas of revolution (or at least the ones which I have read); this means both his method and post-revolutionary society. In contrast to this, although I have yet to fully learn about syndicalist structure, I quite like the sound of Anarcho-Syndicalism.

    I also have to say that, although I see the logic behind the Marxist view of history, I also see flaws.
    Why not morally? Why not logically? What flaws?
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    Welcome, any questions feel free to ask.
    Revolutionary socialism is a laudable aim and can be more similar to anarchism than you think. Stay constructive and don't direct your anger in destructive tendencies.
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    Stay constructive and don't direct your anger in destructive tendencies.
    Definitely. Be careful not to become a stereotype. I'm always glad to see another anarchist, but the "angry, destructive youth" stereotype has created a bit of an image problem for anarchy, in my opinion.
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    Thank you all for the welcome.

    Which uni are you doing your degree at?
    Sheffield University hopefully. They've given me a conditional offer, now I just have to get the grades at A Level.

    Stay constructive and don't direct your anger in destructive tendencies.
    Thank you comrade, this is my aim. One should only try and destroy the old world when ready to build a new one. That's why I'm constantly trying to acquire new knowledge by reading more from new thinkers and read as much History as possible, to understand how and why the human race has allowed the world to stagnate.
    “If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.” -Mikhail Bakunin.
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    Sheffield University hopefully. They've given me a conditional offer, now I just have to get the grades at A Level.
    Yeah, I knew it would be Sheffield. History and politics is a classic Sheffield degree. There's been a long line of radical groups at the Uni. The current incarnation is: http://sheffieldautonomousstudents.wordpress.com/. They're a good of bunch of people, although the politics is a bit lacking. There's also a solid IWW branch in the city.
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    If you're in Sheffield one of the better groups to speak to might be the Midlands Discussion Forum
    http://www.freecommunism.org/tag/mid...cussion-forum/
    Some of them post at libcom.org
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    Please remember that your youthful anger is part of a phase. Over time, you will most likely develop different attitudes.

    Anyway, welcome!
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    Please remember that your youthful anger is part of a phase. Over time, you will most likely develop different attitudes.
    Don't you think that's a bit patronising? Anger, put to use in a productive way, is a powerful thing, and it's not like there's a shortage of things to get angry about.
    "Her development, her freedom, her independence must come from and through herself. First, by asserting herself as a personality, and not as a sex commodity. Second, by refusing the right to anyone over her body; by refusing to bear children unless she wants them; by refusing to become a servant to God, the State, society, the husband, the family, etc. ... by freeing herself from the fear of public opinion and public condemnation. Only that, and not the ballot, will set woman free, will make her a force hitherto unknown in the world, a force for real love, for peace, for harmony; a force of divine fire, of life-giving; a creator of free men and women."
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    Most of revleft is super patronizing about people being angry etc...
    "I'm not interested in indulging whims from members of your faction."
    Seeing as this is seen as acceptable by an admin, from here on out when I have a disagreement with someone I will be asking them to reference this. If you want an explanation of my views, too bad.
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    better angry than hopeless
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    better angry than hopeless
    Better organised than angry.
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    Better organised than angry.
    No.
    "I'm not interested in indulging whims from members of your faction."
    Seeing as this is seen as acceptable by an admin, from here on out when I have a disagreement with someone I will be asking them to reference this. If you want an explanation of my views, too bad.
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