Ecosocialism

[CollectivRed]

What are your thoughts or understandings of ecosocialism or eco-centric socialism? That it is important for Marxists to address and place and emphasis on the ecological crisis (i.e. climate change) brought on by the capitalist mode of production. It is arguably one of the greatest crises humanity has ever faced throughout its existence and is indeed the greatest crisis of capitalism. Do you feel that there is great importance in addressing this problem and the revolutionary potential it can hold, in a global context? In my opinion, the ecological crisis is the best argument the left has ever had against capitalism. I just wanted to bring this topic up because I don't see it discussed very much on this forum, unlike usual topics such as imperialism and the economic aspects of capitalism. Should ecosocialism be the new direction of revolutionary socialists? Sorry if my post might seem unclear or belong in another forum section.

[tuwix]

I just wonder has it anything to do with socialism at all? Socialism is frequently a key word to label something. But the so-called eco-socialists know generally what is socialism about? Do they know about class struggle? Do they know about capitalist property relations? Do they know concept of exploitation and surplus-value at all?

[rena]

The problem that I see with ecosocialism, is that I see no real reason to differentiate between an ecosocialist and an non-ecosocialist. In other words, if they feel that Capitalism is the major cause of climate change and ecological destruction (a sentiment that I share) why then just work within the existing socialist groups and head more ecologically friendly movements within it? Labels tend to differentiate and divide. By asserting that you are a ecosocialist, your are presuming the existence of non-ecosocialists, which can create a false dichotomy between those who support ecological measures and those who oppose them. It is a false dichotomy IMO since I highly doubt any Marxist would deny the destructiveness of Imperialism on the environment, but each individual group should decide whether to make that a priority or not. I don't doubt ecosocialist's intentions, I just don't see the need for more labels.

[CollectivRed]

Rena, your criticism seems quite valid. I see how such use of labeling creates a false dichotomy, and thus creates more confusion. I generally knew that most socialists/communists are aware of environmental destruction created by capitalism, so there is really no need for people to call themselves "eco-socialists" if they are both revolutionary anti-capitalists and environmentalist. I just wanted to know other opinions on it, that is all. I found it interesting, but as you say, it only creates more confusion and potential for needless division.