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    Is it not a voluntary, mutual, agreement between a order and owner?
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    Yes, you always have the option to starve to death.
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    The medieval European serf was also contract bound to a manor, and hence could also be said to have lived in the right-wing style US "Libertarian" contract-society dream utopia by those terms. One of the fundamental flaws both then and now is that there is unequal bargaining power between labor and some owner in such arrangements, and hence there is even under the best of circumstances fundamentally no true mutual consent, just an exploiter controlling the means to live under force of violence and the exploited.
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    Not quite sure about how much freedom and mutuality is in a decision that you have to make to buy food and pay the rent. At best you can decide about who you make an agreement with, but in many cases even that is not possible, especially considered globally.
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    It's voluntary in the sense that the armed robber with a gun pointed at your temple is giving you the voluntary choice to either do as he says or be shot in the head
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    Yes, it is voluntary, but only because for most people, the alternative is to sleep on the streets.
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    Is it not a voluntary, mutual, agreement between a order and owner?
    No, it isn't voluntary in the sense of you volunteer for say charity or for a community event you do with a group your involved with. Economic servitude isn't voluntary at all, to be a wage-slave means that you're selling your labor to a capitalist for a wage, you're effectively selling your body to someone for their business's benefit, and they make money off of their privatized capital you're forced to work. Some people become the capital themselves and have to sell their bodies in worse ways just to maintain some kind of semblance of survival in the capitalist system. In capitalism you're given the right to work, or the right to be homeless, to fall through the cracks, to starve, to die. If you don't work you'll suffer the consequences of the threat from capitalists to work for them to survive.
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    No, it isn't voluntary in the sense of you volunteer for say charity or for a community event you do with a group your involved with. Economic servitude isn't voluntary at all, to be a wage-slave means that you're selling your labor to a capitalist for a wage, you're effectively selling your body to someone for their business's benefit, and they make money off of their privatized capital you're forced to work. Some people become the capital themselves and have to sell their bodies in worse ways just to maintain some kind of semblance of survival in the capitalist system. In capitalism you're given the right to work, or the right to be homeless, to fall through the cracks, to starve, to die. If you don't work you'll suffer the consequences of the threat from capitalists to work for them to survive.
    I must have you confused with someone else, because I'm sure I remember you saying that you own a business and have employees.

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