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"Bradford is an Israel-free zone" - George Galloway
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Very happy about this. Finally a public figure who isn't soft on Israel or an irrelevant pontificating academic.
It's rhetoric and more meaningless than Galloway's usual rhetoric. Its designed to appeal to the more stupid of opponents of Israeli war policy.
Israeli goods, services or tourists are no more responsible for particular conflicts than Britain's. Boycotts of Israeli goods and services are about as likely to change Israeli war policy as boycotts of Palestinian goods and services are to change the war policy of Hamas.
Galloway is a moron. This speech is embarrassing.
I wish death on everyone who works for the Department for Work and Pensions.
So some dumb left-populist demagoguery. I don't understand what there is to be "happy" about here.
Why do Chomsky and his supporters disagree with BDS? Because they are themselves two-state supporting Zionists. Chomsky even defines himself as such.
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3:30 onwards
"I don't regard myself as a critic of Israel, I regard myself as a supporter of Israel."
Strange how some sections of the left are so marginalised and bitter that they bash other sections of the left as "populist"; as if having a crowd-pleasing policy is actually something to be ashamed of, as if anybody who bothers communicating with a mainstream audience is wasting their time and should be in their darkened bedrooms reading about Enrico Barone instead.
I know you're a troll so this isn't directed to you, but to anybody reading this thread and thinking Galloway is some sort of insurgent hero.
He's not a revolutionary in any sense. He is a demagogic, social democratic, rape-apologist masquerading as somebody who is radical because he could argue with himself in a room by himself.
He's a prick and his politics are shite.
Galloway: "I don't debate with Jews."
Come little children, I'll take thee away, into a land of enchantment, come little children, the times come to play, here in my garden of magic.
"I'm tired of this "isn't humanity neat," bullshit. We're a virus with shoes."-Bill Hicks.
I feel the Bern and I need penicillin
Galloway, did not, in fact, say that. He said that he does not debate with Israelis. Obviously it is rsther fruitful for a pro-zionists to paint the opponents of Israel policy as anti-semites, but it isn't so.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- Hanlon's Razor
Keep voting Labour, comrade.
That's another Zionist lie. He said "Israelis."
Here's the video:
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In the past few days your posts have been straight out of the Zionist playbook. Conflate "Zionists" and "Israelis" and "Jews" as if they were the same thing, accuse posters of anti-semitism when they're criticising Zionism, mention the Holocaust when it isn't relevant and now this blatant, stupid lie that is easily exposed as such by the video I just posted.
You lied about Israel in this thread: revleft.com/vb/do-zionists-get-t190092/index.html
This thread: revleft.com/vb/zionists-should-restricted-t190094/index.html
And now here. Are you a professional hasbara troll or just a persistent amatuer?
What does some random Israeli citizen have to do with the human rights abuses commited by the Israeli government and the IDF? Collective guilt is bullshit and I can read between the lines.
Come little children, I'll take thee away, into a land of enchantment, come little children, the times come to play, here in my garden of magic.
"I'm tired of this "isn't humanity neat," bullshit. We're a virus with shoes."-Bill Hicks.
I feel the Bern and I need penicillin
Galloway is a social reactionary who supports religious education and the brainwashing of thousands of British Muslims. He has already said he supports the gender segregation in Muslim schools.
When will some on here learn that supporting Muslims to spite the face of anti-Islam politicans such as Wilders, etc only plays into their hands. How do you think people like Farage and Wilders have strong working class base? Because they paint themselves as the anti-fascists, the fascists here being Islamist extremists.
Galloway is a converted Muslim in all but name anyway, so he is irrelevant, but we must remember that we should oppose all forms of religious extremism and expansionism.
And what has any of that got to do with what I posted? You said, wrongly, that Galloway asserted that he "does not debate with Jews". That is not true. I corrected you. Now you bring up the idea of 'collective guilt', which Galloway does not apply (as shown in the video posted in the post below mine), as a an obvious red herring.
As for what Galloway actually said, rather than your obfuscation of the reality of his comment, it is that he does not debate with Israeli's there to defend the Israeli state's racist policies. The gold standard on the left, when dealing with those who support apartheid politics and policy is to refuse to give them a platform. It would be far more concerning if Galloway had debated that young man and given him the opportunity to air his support for apartheid Israel and defend its actions.
That has nothing to do with 'collective punishment' or 'collective guilt', and that you would suggest otherwise highlights either your shocking ignorance or alternatively the fact that you are here to troll.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- Hanlon's Razor
You can cut the shit, I'm aware of the fact that I deliberately misquoted Galloway and I am confident other people did as well, which was the whole fucking point. What actually happened was, Galloway was debating a triple major student who happened to be Israeli, however, said student was not arguing in defense of the war nor did he comment on Israeli policies. It was only when the student said 'we' did he proceed to act like an idiot and a racist one at that. Even his statements in the OP are outrageous. No, Israeli tourists? You serious? I think one woman twitter had an interesting point, what if one of your constituents has Israeli citizenship? The organizers of the debate are equally appalled by his bullshit. This is not a 'no platform' incident because again, the student wasn't defending the war, was arguing for withdrawal from West Bank as part of an overall peace negotiations take place recognizing both the Palestinian and Israeli state. That's not lending support for the war nor is it defending the Israeli state or certain policies thereof. Get a clue and calm down.
Come little children, I'll take thee away, into a land of enchantment, come little children, the times come to play, here in my garden of magic.
"I'm tired of this "isn't humanity neat," bullshit. We're a virus with shoes."-Bill Hicks.
I feel the Bern and I need penicillin
Why would you deliberately misquote someone? Not only is it disingenuous but it does nothing but muddy the water and invite conflict.
because He/She is a zionist and intent on labelling anybody who does not agree with his/her stance on the Israel-Palestine conflict as an anti-semite.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
- Hanlon's Razor
What does every american citizen have to do with every war th US is involved in? Usually nothing but we still have a duty to end all of the interventions and wars regardless of how guilty we may feel.
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She actually isn't a Zionist and she deliberately misquoted the PM in a way which reflected what she felt was his true meaning. It's very obvious that she misquoted him, just as to the why should be just as obvious. She also thinks members here are accusing her of being Zionist or saying that she's merely calling people anti-Semites is a bullshit attempt to discredit what she is saying.
Further, this accusations of 'muddying the waters' or what have you is equally ridiculous. She also doesn't understand how within the context of the near annihilation of a whole group of people only 70+ years ago, which infected nearly all of Europe, why what she is saying is being received in such a manner.
This dude was obviously a douchebag engaged in douchebaggery.
Come little children, I'll take thee away, into a land of enchantment, come little children, the times come to play, here in my garden of magic.
"I'm tired of this "isn't humanity neat," bullshit. We're a virus with shoes."-Bill Hicks.
I feel the Bern and I need penicillin
You don't have to be a Zionist or a two-stater to see BDS as stupid.
So, here we have a thread about a washed-out Labourite, a sub-reformist, known for his friendly relations with a number of bourgeois governments and an approach to sexual minorities that is cynical at best, and most people are either cheering his ineffectual grandstanding (if anyone thinks Galloway can exclude Israel from anything, they are fooling themselves) or criticising him for daring to say bad things about Israel. Figures.
