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This person could be any antiaurhoritarian this could be an anarchist capitalist
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If an AnCom holds the economic ideals of Communism then whats the plan of a left-wing Anarchist without it?
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This person could be any antiaurhoritarian this could be an anarchist capitalist
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Well you wouldn't be an AnCap if you're left wing and an Anti Authoritarian would just be another way to say Anarchist. So the question is, what economic plan does a left-wing Anarchist have or does he require an add-on to that title such as AnCom in order to be taken seriously as having realistic ideals?
The rejection of labeling themselves as communists is a matter of historical tradition, not ideology. It's comprable to Maoist parties being identified by the 'M-L' addition, I.e. Communist Party of Greece (ML). They're all Marxist leninists, but it's tradition.
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Technically all socialist anarchists ate socialist anarchists as well as tradition like Rafiq has said. A non communist anarchist could be a primitivist as well. A liberal anarchist is technically an anarchist
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
Also they could hold any economical idea
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
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There are def. non-communist anarchist strains though. Mutualism and individualist schools of anarchist thought aren't communist, while still being anti-capitalist.
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Thats what I was looking for. An Anarchist with no economic additional name attached must be assumed as a primitivist which I would equate to no economical ideology. Assuming were not talking about the previously mentioned communist anarchist avoiding the label of anything beyond anarchist that actually holds some sort of economic ideology.
Sound right?
But they would hold SOME form of economic ideology and an additional name could be added whether they like it or not right?
Basically what I was getting at is if someone says they are a left-wing Anarchist, that doesn't totally describe them. Further information is required to understand their ideologies.
I hold both, yet I'm still an anarchist communist
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
Not all primitivists are anarchists, as well as not all anti-civilization type people not being primitivists. Anarchism fits so many differnt positions, it's difficult to define all anarchists as left wing in reality, and you wouldn't be able to lable them right-wing either. Anarchism hits a multitude of different things. You can get national anarchists that are third positionists. They hold an idea contradictory of socialism and capitalism, a third position ouside of both of those economical ideas, and they hold on to this shitty belief in authority as well as in the nation, so they're statist anarchists, and they're the epitome of cognitive dissonance.
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
How can you be a mutualist and a communist? I mean, the most obvious difference is the mutualist upholding of trade, market, money et cetera (that's somehow "fair" and thus "not capitalist") whereas communism is the abolition of the market, money, trade et cetera.
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Perhaps thinking mutual aid'ist' and mutualist is a daft thing to think when I'm drunk. I was thinking mutual aid, and mutual aid has never come across as anything that has conradicted communism like market socialism. I'm taking this as I'm confusing terms here and will not mix mutual aid with mutualist anymore, so I'll further research into what mutualism is outside of this. However, I think trade will always exist, and my reasoning being. "hey dude, I have this TV I don't want anymore." "Sweet Julie, can I have it?" "Yeah, I don't want it, it's just taking up my space at home, You have anything you wanna get rid of?" "Yeah I have a couch I don't want." "who's slept on it?" "Just me dude." I should stop posting.
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
Hey buddy! You just described capitalism![]()
How lol? I was thinking of exchange from one item to another without money. Both sides benefited gained something, no one exploited anything for profit, so there exists no capitalist in this
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin
Yeah dude totally, if you're overlooking the wage system, rent, private property, needless bills, and the destruction of the environment, your spot on![]()
Capitalism dosent require money. I can trade you my TV for your Couch and I only did it(typically) because I feel I benefited from that trade. That would mean I capitalized.
Ehh... capitalism is a little more complex than barter.
If I gave you my functioning radio because I didn't have a want or need for it anymore, and you wanted it, that wouldn't be capitalism, that'd be giving you something that you felt you needed. Capitalism does require money, and requires a multitude of other things, but a money economy is the marker of capitalism.
"But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free-thinker and emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge." ~Mikhail Bakunin