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Yo, TERFs! FUCK YOU!
I've just got to ask everyone else....
Has anyone noticed the large number of TERFs that have suddenly crawled out of the woodwork ever since the Elliot Rodger shooting?
Their bigotry and trans-phobic rhetoric is just so goddamn vile. It's absolutely disgusting that these bigots call themselves 'feminists'.
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I haven't noticed a greater number than usual since that happened.
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Mostly those who I've noticed have been anti-feminists, MRM apologists, and MRM sympathizers, if we're talking about people in (allegedly) Socialist circles.
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This is silly. Feminists are a constant target of every identity politics complaint only because identity politics agitators know that feminists will acquiesce to their demands in significant numbers but they wont even register on the radar of people with the real capacity and propensity to be oppressive. Feminists on the internet are who you want to pick a fight with if you want a pointless symbolic victory by getting people on the internet to disavow themselves from your target out of fear of being called privileged - actually persuading people not already inclined to agree, and making real change requires actual work.
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I think the OP made it clear he was speaking of a small sub-group of feminism, namely trans-exclusive radical feminists.
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TERFs arent even real feminists. Cathy Brennan and her band of merry idiots are all lunatics. I haven't noticed an increase of them or anything. But I have noticed an increase of MRA assholes. That organization A Voice for Men seem to be gaining attention over their plans to have a convention in Detroit recently. A lot of those fuckers are coming out of the woodworks to rally around Elliot Rodger's dead body (in the metaphorical sense)
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I'm not sure if I get the correlation between TERFs and Elliot Rodger. Someone fill me in?
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On the contrary, new and younger feminists seem to be more prone toward intersectionality and very anti-TERF. Even TERF 'veterans' such as Julie Bindel have become less anti-Trans. What I have noticed however is a bigger recognition of 'TERF' as a distinct category of feminists, which is probably connected to their views becoming more objectionable to new and younger feminists.
Just out of (morbid) curiosity, what's the basis of anti-trans feminists' discrimination? Or to phrase it better yet, how do they rationalize their discrimination?
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One argument I have heard (not sure how prevalent it is though, there may be more) TERF's attacking Trans people is on the basis that they didnt have to experience being a female growing up and all the bad shit that comes with it but opt in to the oppression. I also think they also make the argument that Trans people accept the idea that there is an inherent difference between the male and female brain. There is perhaps more or maybe i've vulgarised the views though.
(I'm not endorsing these arguments btw)
they say that transwomen are actually men (and also socialized as men) that would like to occupy or infiltrate exclusively female, safe spaces and events and make the "real" women there feel uncomfortable.
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They also say transmen are traitors looking to benefit from male privilege.
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Seeing as this is seen as acceptable by an admin, from here on out when I have a disagreement with someone I will be asking them to reference this. If you want an explanation of my views, too bad.
this makes so much sense considering what stigma transpeople go through.
Logic doesn't seem to be transphobic people's strength.
Liberal Dudes are guys who will jump up and down to tell you that they’re all about equality and prosperity for everyone, but then tell you about the strip club they were at the night before or about the awesome anal porn site they last jerked off to. Liberal Dudes are ready to welcome us into the boardroom, provided we’re still willing to dance on the conference table at the employee party. Liberal Dudes love “sex-positive” “feminists” because Liberal Dudes support women’s freedom and “rights,” up to and including our “right” to strip and to suck dicks for money. Liberal Dudes love to see women embracing pornorific behavior like pole dancing, pube waxing, porn watching, thong wearing, chick kissing, and boob flashing as a means to “empowerment,” because that’s exactly the kind of power they want us to have: the power to give them boners.
Moved from /politics to /discrimination.
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This could be a dumb question but what does TERF stand for? Its probably something obvious
Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists.
cheers. Am I right in thinking from reading this thread that they are feminists who are opposed to trans people? Specifically MTF or FTM also?
Indeed; they think the former are patriarchal infiltrators intent on invading women's safe places for the purpose of rape, and the latter are traitors who want the easy life.
Mostly with bullshit phrases like "rape is penis in vagina" or "my physical body as a real woman is what makes me oppressed" (used to imply that trans women aren't real females).
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Cheers again. They sound very extreme alright. Do these people have a lot of support?
