MRA shooter kills several people

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

From the Southern Poverty Law Center
http://splcenter.org/blog/2014/05/24...int-to-motive/

Elliot Rodger, who died after allegedly carrying out a series of drive-by shootings from behind the wheel of his BMW last night near the University of California, Santa Barbara campus, wrote in November that he wanted to “overthrow this oppressive feminist system” and create a “world where WOMEN FEAR YOU.”
Hours before the attack, Rodger – son of “Hunger Games” assistant director Peter Rodger – posted a deeply misogynistic video on YouTube in which he pledged to exact revenge for being rejected by women. “If I can’t have you, girls, I will destroy you,” he says.
A review of Rodger’s online writing suggests an ideology behind his lust for revenge. As I noted earlier today, Rodger was an active member of PuaHate.com, an online message board whose users lament that women are not attracted to them. The self-pitying participants frequently identify themselves as “incels” – short for involuntary celibate – and engage in misogynistic attacks on women.


Rodger appeared to view himself as something of an incel revolutionary. In November, Rodger reacted angrily to another user who suggested that lucid dreaming might be an acceptable stand-in for sex. “If all incels were to start getting sedated by lucid dreaming, incels will become docile and there will be no revolution,” he wrote.
Instead, Rodger wrote that incels must go on offense: “If we can’t solve our problems we must DESTROY our problems.” He concluded with a call to arms against women:
One day incels will realize their true strength and numbers, and will overthrow this oppressive feminist system.
Start envisioning a world where WOMEN FEAR YOU.
Rodger had a similar reaction a month earlier in October when a user suggested virtual reality as an outlet for incels: “No… this is a dark future for incels. It will only keep them sedated and prevent the revolution that needs to happen.”
In January, another frequent PuaHate user – “The Purifier” – argued that “Incels should go on strike” with the aim of an “Incel Revolution against women and feminism”:
All Incels should go on strike for a few days, our first blow against a society that oppresses us. Women treat us like we are a waste of space, that we are unworthy. Society thinks you are scum, so stop contributing to it by working your shitty, mundane, slave-like jobs. Go on strike until the world gives some recognition to our plight.
This will be a first, incremental step towards the full on Incel Revolution against women and feminism.
Another user quickly responded to say that the “majority of incels are most likely high inhibition so this would never happen.” Rodger chided that user, asking “Why are you so pessimistic?”
Rodger, who wrote in April 2013 on PuaHate that “Revenge is something to live for,” was apparently committed to bringing about this revolution.
At least one other PuaHate user regards Rodger as a hero for his commitment. In a post from 2:48 AM today entitled, “A hero on Puahate; and conclusions thereof,” the user offered this summation:
-Elliot Rodger is a hero
-Shot people
-Is now dead
-A puahate member
Keep in mind incels, this forum is a place to “funnel” dangerous people, and is being tracked. Keep your posts mundane and your fucking terrorist attacks to yourself.

[Comrade Jacob]

I saw his video and immediately I saw a pretentious swine. Shame he didn't put a bullet through his brain first.

[BITW434]

The sad reality is that he is not just one of the few men who think that, I have encountered too many guys like him in the past...

[Naroc]

That guy was just a misogynist, self-centered twat with a completely disturbed view on what justice is. He's been a virgin with 22 (!!!) years, and uses this to justify the murder on 6 people? Right after the motto: "If i can't get laid, nobody should!". There are so many people in the world who'd be jealous of the life he had.

...The hell is wrong with guys like him...

[Per Levy]

good video on the subject, with several clips from that guys videos.

+ YouTube Video

That guy was just a misogynist, self-centered twat

that is pretty damn ironic, complaining about misogyny and useing sexist language.

[Naroc]

that is pretty damn ironic, complaining about misogyny and useing sexist language.

You're damn right, because now i noticed i used the wrong word and confused it with turd. My knowledge of english swear words is pretty limited You may forgive me that little fauxpas

[Quail]

That guy was just a misogynist, self-centered twat

Verbal warning for prejudiced language. Please refrain from using words like "twat" as slurs.

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The clips from his videos in the video that Per Levy posted made me feel sick to be honest. The entitlement is just mind-blowing. Men like him are angry because they feel as though they are entitled to "beautiful women" and sex, and they feel like they are being denied their right. It would be pathetic if it wasn't so dangerous.

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http://t.mediaite.com/mediaite/#!/en...d8d24162dcfacb

He was also a racist. Couldn't handle seeing a black guy with girls whom apparently only "superior gentlemen" like himself are entitled to.

[Dr Doom]

spoilt rich kid who thought just because he had everything literally handed to him in life, assumed this included women. tool.

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spoilt rich kid who thought just because he had everything literally handed to him in life, assumed this included women. tool.

Definitely had some internalized racism, as seen in the article. He called other Asians pieces of shit and told them to jump off bridges because they aren't good enough for white women (he himself was half Asian)

[Naroc]

Verbal warning for prejudiced language. Please refrain from using words like "twat" as slurs.

Aye,aye! But as i already said, i didn't used that word intentionally.

Back to topic:
This guy was a stereotype of a spoiled "I get what i want because my parents are rich" brat. I think this is the main reason why he freaked out so much about such simple things. He drove a BMW - when i remember correctly - ,bought sunglasses for over 250$, and the list goes on. In his way of thinking, he is predestined to get a lot of women, due to the fact that he has money and is the "ultimate gentleman" as he calls himself. And when he met reality he couldn't handle the fact that women may have a different view on him as he had on himself.

Edit: As i just saw, Dr Doom summarized all i said into one sentence

[synthesis]

This might be an unpopular opinion - obviously his videos and the ideology expressed in them are enormously repugnant - but I think it's difficult not to see this as just another nutjob who was looking for an excuse to go on a killing spree. They can be anti-Semites, anti-government, anti-NWO, or anti-feminism, but I think it's a mistake to say that any of those ideologies "creates" this sort of thing - not that anyone here is doing that, as far as I can tell, and they do seem to all come from the far-right, but I'm not sure that the specific strain of reaction is the function rather than the form, so to speak. To me this is primarily an issue of mental health.

good video on the subject, with several clips from that guys videos.

Wow, she nailed it with the American Psycho reference.

[Lord Testicles]

A sad little man who thought that human relationships were a right as opposed to a privilege. It a real pity that he didn't channel all that anger and depression into a quiet suicide.

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After watching some of his videos, I don't think this is just about entitlement as other users have been saying( although his wealth and this culture of entitlement did contribute some). This guy was severely mentally ill and created an alternate reality around himself. I do wish that our society would provide more treatment for these people. This is not a normal case of entitlement, this guy was very sick.

[BIXX]

After watching some of his videos, I don't think this is just about entitlement as other users have been saying( although his wealth and this culture of entitlement did contribute some). This guy was severely mentally ill and created an alternate reality around himself. I do wish that our society would provide more treatment for these people. This is not a normal case of entitlement, this guy was very sick.

Most people who are as entitled and privileged as him are sick. Very, very sick.

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Most people who are as entitled and privileged as him are sick. Very, very sick.

Yea but I've met a lot of entitled people (my town has a lot of obnoxious rich kids) but this guy is so beyond that it's like he's completely alienated from reality. Like I watched a video where he was watching this couple kiss and his reaction to it was just so... eerie... I don't even know but a lot of users are just brushing this off as entitlement when it looks like a lot more than that to me.

[Lynx]

I'm wondering if this is related to the larger phenomena of Nice Guy Syndrome?
e.g. http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Guy%20Syndrome

[Diirez]

This guy is way too entitled. As if the entire female gender revolves around him and if they don't then they deserve punishment.

He mentioned that humanity is a sad species in the video, too bad he had it wrong. People like him are what destroy humanity.

[Xena Warrior Proletarian]

After watching some of his videos, I don't think this is just about entitlement as other users have been saying( although his wealth and this culture of entitlement did contribute some). This guy was severely mentally ill and created an alternate reality around himself. I do wish that our society would provide more treatment for these people. This is not a normal case of entitlement, this guy was very sick.

I don't think you can just say 'he was mentally ill'. Everyone has delusions, some more than others, when you think about it religion is often more delusional than the crap he is spouting.

It's not ok to simply call people with abhorrent views 'sick'. It doesn't really help anyone, and it's not a good habit to get into (Stalin's 'sluggish schizophrenia' and counter-revolutionary disease comes to mind).

The whole idea of 'personality disorders' et all is very controversial in itself, and I don't think your homemade diagnosis of 'mental illness' based on a few youtube videos is accurate, valid or helpful.

The reality of the situation is surely far more complex, and it's worth examining in detail in order to prevent the same kind of thing happening in the future.

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I don't think you can just say 'he was mentally ill'. Everyone has delusions, some more than others, when you think about it religion is often more delusional than the crap he is spouting.

It's not ok to simply call people with abhorrent views 'sick'. It doesn't really help anyone, and it's not a good habit to get into (Stalin's 'sluggish schizophrenia' and counter-revolutionary disease comes to mind).

The whole idea of 'personality disorders' et all is very controversial in itself, and I don't think your homemade diagnosis of 'mental illness' based on a few youtube videos is accurate, valid or helpful.

The reality of the situation is surely far more complex, and it's worth examining in detail in order to prevent the same kind of thing happening in the future.

Actually, from what I understand he was diagnosed and was being treated for several mental illnesses, so no it was not a "homemade diagnosis." And yes, I already said it was complex and our entitlement culture plays a role so why don't you go back and read my post