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    The leader of BH is hilarious.
    BH is more about rape than chopping off hands.
    Like you care about Nigeria. The women of Nigeria need to organize or else this will keep happening. No matter if it is Boko Haram (with their leader of lols) or Christian militias, or "the government" of Nigeria.
    Are you fucked in the head or something? What kind of fucking humor is this supposed to be? This is just bizarre.
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    Have you ever stopped to ponder who might be controlling the lens?
    Clearly some western atheist pro-femen "islamophobic" imperialist conspiracy, amiright?


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    "I abducted your girls," a man claiming to be Abubakar Shekau, the group's leader, said in a video seen by the Guardian. "I will sell them in the market, by Allah. I will sell them off and marry them off. There is a market for selling humans.

    "Women are slaves. I want to reassure my Muslim brothers that Allah says slaves are permitted in Islam," he added, in an apparent reference to an ancient tradition of enslaving women captured during jihad, or holy war.
    - Boko Haram's leader

    How come we don't see any muslims protesting or actively condemning their actions like how they did when the cartoons depicting Muhammad were released? And how dare some people claim that our page "has no concern for the girls and we want to spread hatred and bigotry"? Why do you try to silence us when we call out on the terror fanatics and their underlying motivation behind it (I.e. Islam)? Oh and if you're going to say they are not 'true muslims' or this isn't 'true Islam' or 'Islam is perfect Muslims are not' kind of pathetic excuses, I kindly invite you to Google this term: No True Scottsman Fallacy.

    Everytime, EVERY DAMN TIME a terrorist attack happens, Muslims will rush to defend the honour of Islam but RARELY, VERY RARELY do they actually call out on their bullshit! I just don't understand why the criticism of Islam causes more outrage (even among many moderate Muslims) instead of the violence and bloodbath and war and slavery caused by the terrorist groups?

    This page believes that not all Muslims are responsible for the terror attacks carried out by Islamists so stop framing us okay? Instead, you should call out and condemn their Islamists instead od US. Everytime you try to silence or censor criticism of Islam and Islamism, and keep silent about the horror attacks, you are ONLY enabling these terrorists and fundies to continue their crimes against huamnity. Be part of the solution, not the problem.
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    Are you fucked in the head or something? What kind of fucking humor is this supposed to be? This is just bizarre.
    I don't see what is humorous about rape. Boko Haram's leader is a evil, blah, blah, murderer warlord etc, but he is hilarious in his videos. His insanity, and that he is follow is pretty funny in a relativist sort of way. Or maybe I just like to find humor in tragedy, sue me.

    Also I'm serious about the women of Nigeria. They need to band together and start killing men if anyone is going to take them seriously enough to not kidnap them and sell them off as slaves. All the major parties in Nigeria are a threat to the women there, they should kill them all.
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    I don't see what is humorous about rape. Boko Haram's leader is a evil, blah, blah, murderer warlord etc, but he is hilarious in his videos. His insanity, and that he is follow is pretty funny in a relativist sort of way. Or maybe I just like to find humor in tragedy, sue me.

    Also I'm serious about the women of Nigeria. They need to band together and start killing men if anyone is going to take them seriously enough to not kidnap them and sell them off as slaves. All the major parties in Nigeria are a threat to the women there, they should kill them all.
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    It's funny because I am usually defending Muslims from racist comments in real life.
    Also, you cannot be racist against a fucking world religion. Am I the dipshit? Because last I checked, the MAJORITY of Muslims are not Arab. In fact, Muslims comprise all sorts of ethnicities. I guess you didn't know that, I suggest educating yourself though before making a fool of yourself on an internet forum accusing me of being racist towards a world religion.
    Just had to point this out.
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    the followers of a religion are a different thing than the religion itself. I find "Islam sucks" not as nearly as offensive as "Muslims suck".
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    Just had to point this out.
    Well, the comments coming from reactionaries in the West about Muslims are generally racist because they are talking about Arab people or any brown-skinned person who is wearing any type of traditional Muslim dress.

    But the person I was debating with is saying I am being racist towards Muslims as an entire world religion when all I was doing was pointing out that when Muslims or any religious theocrats gain power, they use it to subjugate people. That is not racist, especially because there are white people who convert to Islam and participate in violent activities as well.

    But I can see your point, I should have phrased it better. Certainly weakens my argument.
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    To be fair the vast majority of muslims are brown. For many this is the real reason they oppose Islam. Not to accuse Ace Steel of such, just pointing out a simple fact.

    @tachosomoza: For selling them as fucking slaves maybe? Or standing by while they were taken? The Christians aren't any better, they just target muslim girls instead. The Nigerian government is populated by people who live off of slave trade. None of these people deserve sympathy but instead bayonets.

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    Also I'm serious about the women of Nigeria. They need to band together and start killing men if anyone is going to take them seriously enough to not kidnap them and sell them off as slaves. All the major parties in Nigeria are a threat to the women there, they should kill them all.
    How on earth do you expect a bunch of schoolgirls to organize some kind of militia on a whim?

    the followers of a religion are a different thing than the religion itself. I find "Islam sucks" not as nearly as offensive as "Muslims suck".
    The issue isn't with religion per se though - and this is true for Christian fanatics too. One can be a leftist or even just a moderate and be a Muslim or a Christian (though perhaps not a strict Marxist materialist) and not just take all the passages that are used to justify reactionary violence as literal endorsements of the kinds of behavior seen by Boko Haram and the Taliban. Most of the victims of this kind of violence are fellow Muslims, and they clearly don't endorse this kind of thing.
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    Sure, sure it is.

    Except the Boko Haram is located at the opposite ends of Nigeria, away from oil, and the niger delta has had rebels for far longer than the Boko Haram has been active without foreign intervention. Also, the oil is already in British-Dutch and American and French and Italian hands. What the hell is an intervention needed for?

    Not everything is a conspiracy you know.
    Intervention is needed to install a US military base in Nigeria and further privatize the oil fields, which are state owned, and are not being fully exploited, and to control the oil "theft" or piracy by beefing up naval presence. That is to say nothing of the rest of the vast natural resources in Nigeria. Ridiculous Boko Haram, with its Libyan-smuggled weapons (where have we seen that? Oh yeah, Syria) is a pretext to lean on the Nigerian government. What better way to ooze your way into a country that has kept you at arms length than to focus on one atrocity (take your pick) that has the added benefit of striking deep racist cords in the west (black Muslim men with guns raping little girls) to whip up international hysteria and galvanize or at least disarm the lightly read R2P left and use the media and celebs to take to twitter and demand that Team America World Police do something to #BringBackOurGirls. (shades of Kony 2012)
    Which inevitably means sending US troops (and/or French) and the "mission creep" will just go on and on and the troops never leave and you wont think about it again until you hear about some drones striking the niger delta rebels. The US will have its military base, ECOWAS can be renamed FREEDOMWAS and Shell's stock will go up three cents.

    This is not about whether or not it actually happened or how many white fingerprints are on it so I'm not sure why you use the word conspiracy - this sort of humanitarian pretext for American presence in country X has been happening in some form or another all over Africa for decades. Rwanda, Uganda, Sudan and new colony S. Sudan - official language English - Libya, Sierra Leone etc. Sometimes we use force, sometimes we use opportunity. There is no better friend to US interests in Nigeria than Boko Haram is right this minute.

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    @Sinister Cultural Marxist: I'm sorry, I assumed Nigeria had other women besides schoolgirls. Oh and militias are organized on a "whim" all the time, the whim just needs to be a drastic threat to the safety of those forming a militia.
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    @tachosomoza: For selling them as fucking slaves maybe? Or standing by while they were taken? The Christians aren't any better, they just target muslim girls instead. The Nigerian government is populated by people who live off of slave trade. None of these people deserve sympathy but instead bayonets.

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    Yeah, and what do you think the result will be if women decide to just start wantonly killing men? Are you insane?
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    All those who identify with revolutionary politics must hold Muslims to the same standards that we do to those in our own respective countries. When an American conservative utters sexist garbage about the family, we attack him, not because we despise our own 'culture' or because we don't understand the complexities behind such sexism - it would be deeply obscene to speak of such an occurrence in terms of culture, wouldn't it?

    The point is that when we attack Islamists and are intolerant of reactionary Muslims, we are not doing it because we feel a sense of superiority. On the contrary, we are universalizing truth in that the peoples of the Muslim world are no longer the barbarian other, but an example of loving thy neighbor. The true racist is the tolerant liberal technocrat who passively accepts the notion that Muslims are a barbarian other as unquestionable, and proceeds to fit them within the proximity of global harmony and prosperity - in a way that is most beneficial to everyone (the logical conclusion is to tolerant Islam and Muslims and their backward, reactionary ways). As though they are animals a part of an ecological question whose nature we do not question and simply accept by default. As radicals, we must refuse to accept this, there is an inexpressible injustice occurring today in the Muslim world, the literal sexual slavery of women, child abuse, domination and oppression of marginal groups, horrible worker's rights and so on. It is not I, or those in the west who emphasize this, but forces in the Muslim world itself, who I can only expect would be absolutely and utterly disgusted by the way in which such crimes are excused.

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    To be fair the vast majority of muslims are brown. For many this is the real reason they oppose Islam. Not to accuse Ace Steel of such, just pointing out a simple fact.

    @tachosomoza: For selling them as fucking slaves maybe? Or standing by while they were taken? The Christians aren't any better, they just target muslim girls instead. The Nigerian government is populated by people who live off of slave trade. None of these people deserve sympathy but instead bayonets.

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    oops AS beat me too it.
    I'm pretty damn sure that the majority of brown people aren't muslims though.
    But it's a mute point if that was a way to project racism against brown folks there would be a hell of a lot more blatant anti-catholic sentiment along the southern border in the USA.
    Also, I'm Mexican-American, another group of brown people that experience racism and xenophobia in the United States as well. Mexican culture is very intertwined with catholicism and overall Mexicans make up one of the most devoutly catholic nationalities in the world. Do I use that as an excuse to cling to catholicism? No, I've got too much brains for that even after all of the braincells I've lost. I'm not 6 years old an I don't have imaginary friends and if someone is watching over me all the time, they probably work for a government agency and do not have divinity or super powers other than wiretapping.

    I have respect for very, very few people who believe in God in my heart and with those extremely few people it is because I managed to put aside their belief in God and like them on a personal level. For me, that is about as easy as being friends with a fascist.

    A fascist would most likely want to kill me for being chicana. A religious person something except being one of them immodest, outspoken womyn or even more so, because of my blatant undeniable bisexuality.

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    I love how you've basically made me into a caricature of the stereotypical racist conservatives on television and shit.
    Well you do exhibit all the familiar symptoms, probably you've just been reading Hitchens & Harris a bit too much lately.

    Also, you cannot be racist against a fucking world religion. Am I the dipshit? Because last I checked, the MAJORITY of Muslims are not Arab. In fact, Muslims comprise all sorts of ethnicities. I guess you didn't know that, I suggest educating yourself though before making a fool of yourself on an internet forum accusing me of being racist towards a world religion.
    Ah yes, the good 'ol "Islam is not a race!" cop out. Too bad it's bullshit.

    I didn't "single out" Muslims. If this militant group of reactionary savages was a Christian group, I would be railing on against Christian violence. But guess what? People on this site know about Christian hate groups. But you can't criticize those innocent Muslims who treat women, gays, and non Muslims terribly.
    Yes you did, by saying that if Muslims get hold of weapons they automatically start oppressing people. As if there is something inherently wrong with Muslims compared with other people. And then you go on complaining about how you can't criticize Muslims, which is obvious bullocks. You can criticize Muslims all over the place, have you tried opening a fucking newspaper in the last decade? Muslims and Islam have been criticized and demonized to hell and back again.

    Also, I never even mentioned Muslims in the West. Again, Muslims in the West are the ones who generally need to be defended from racists because there IS racism against Arabs. Even if an Arab is not Muslim, there is racism because they are Arab and it's associated with bad things. You understand?
    Yeah, because Islam and Muslims has been associated with certain things, e.g. brown skin color, turbans, shalwar kameez. This is not isolated to Arabs though, e.g. post 9/11 Sikhs, who are not Arabs and have nothing to do with Islam, were attacked in the street because people associated them with Islam.

    Also, Islamophobia extends further than the West. There is a slew of misconceptions about Muslims in other parts of the world, e.g. the filthy one you spewed earlier.

    But nah, just keep calling me racist towards a world religion
    Okay, racist.

    and continue making excuses for violent acts committed towards women and other minority groups by Muslim radicals
    What's wrong with you? Why do you make shit up? Not even once have I made any such excuse.
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    Why the fuck would someone defend reactionary muslims? As Rafiq said, we (you, actually) need to use the same standards on them (us). You can't single out your criticism of sexism and fanaticism, just because they're muslims.
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    because obviously this is happening out of some religious motivation. And no, I'm not saying that Islam wants people to do that, I just find it irritating that people take it to the streets rather because of cartoons than because of child abduction.
    We muslims do tend to be apologists, when it comes to islamist crimes. Kind of a defence-reaction. But that's the wrong way, we need to deal with this problem. Letting it slide is not the right way.
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    BH is more about rape than chopping off hands.


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