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that whole statement is stupid anyway, when nowadays girls have their periods with 10 or 11 and have to wear it then. No justification for little girls' sexualization.
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Nothing wrong about it. There are lots of traditions in the Islamic world that are not Islamic but people do them anyway in the name of islam. Girls are not required to wear the veil until after puberty in islam, some Muslims wearing it earlier does not change that fact.
Some Muslims wear a burka, that does not mean islam requires you to wear a burka.
Please don't shift your goal-posts. You previously made the demonstrably false claim that veils are only worn by post-pubescent girls. It's also wrong since Afghanistan, under the Taliban, and Saudi Arabia's dress code laws are based off their interpretation of Islam where pre-pubsecent children wear veils.
I also find your comments regarding the burka quite Islamophobic and outright bigoted/ignorant as Islam is not monolithic and there are many different interpretations regarding the requirement of wearing the burka.
That's your interpretation of my claim. It's not a requirement to wear the veil until puberty in islam, whatever the Taliban might have imposed on people. The Taliban also excluded women from working, that does not mean women in islam are excluded from working.
There's also nothing whatsoever bigoted about the fact that women are not required to wear the burka in islam. As you yourself admit, there are different interpretations all over the world of what constitutes the veil. That does not make the burka a requirement.
Since when did Islam become a monolithic entity for racist bigots?
Huh I'm kinda thrown by how stupid what you're saying is cuz I wouldn't expect it from you. Saying race doesn't exist in biology but is only a social construct doesn't mean that "race" isn't a factor in society or that people aren't oppressed on the basis of it.
Plus the whole "ISLAM ISN'T A RACE" thing is dumb cuz obviously "islam" is shorthand for "brown" for bigots. I think we can criticize shitty, patriarchal, and reactionary ideas n attitudes without stooping to the level of xenophobic nationalists. And if you think Islamophobia isn't a thing then I dunno, maybe you should talk to the increasing nuber of folks who've been victimized by violence on the basis of being (or just "looking") like a Muslim.
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Repeating statements over and over again does not make them any more true you know.
Are we sure these girls are Muslim. There are other Christian and Jewish cultures in the Levant and Balkans in which females wear head coverings. Also, the so-called Muslim world is a pretty big place and the practices are by no means uniform. In Lebanon, Egypt, and in Jordan, girls do not cover their hair. In Lebanon, middle class, adult Suunis do not cover their hair, but lower class Shiites do.
I can't describe enough my distaste for the "Muslims are not a race" argument. A Mexican person can be white, black or from any of the ethnic groups we call "indigenous," or any combination of such, but when you hear someone inveighing against "Mexicans" for whatever negative trait that person has decided to associate with the entire population, who here would hesitate to call that racist? Or would you say "Mexicans are not a race" to that as well?
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
So the racist bigot is saying Islam is a monolithic religion with one interpretive tradition?
So in other words you're agreeing with me?
How is that in any way a fair conclusion to be drawn from the statement that sparked this righteous outrage from you?
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
If your point is that Muslims are not monolithic, then yes.
Hehe, nope, I completely disagree with that statement.
Claiming there is one interpretative tradition regarding dress or age of wearing veil when in reality there are many interpretive traditions is making Islam monolithic.
This would be no different than if the racist bigot claimed abolishing slavery were un-Islamic because the racist bigot could cite some interpretative traditions allowing slavery while other, divergent, interpretive traditions existed.
Failing to see how one racist bigot is impoverishing Islamic civilization's numerous interpretive traditions highlights deeply rooted Islamophobia.
I didn't say it wasn't a social construct. I said that they aren't dismissible as a social construct. I've seen too many people dismiss their privilege on the basis of race being a social construct. I was also responding to someone who thought gender and race are the same thing. They are both social constructs but it doesn't take a genius to see they are separate social constructs.
Not everyone who criticizes Islam does it for the same reason. Both the front national (france) and femen have made statements critical of islam. However, front national and femen are ideologically opposed to each other and femen has protested against front national as well. Clearly the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
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Okay, this has to be some kind of satirical account criticizing people who use the term "Islamophobia" or something.
"to become a philosopher, start by walking very slowly"
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
@roza/nakidana/all the other people who keep insisting that the veil is mandatory: Muhammad explicitly said that women cannot be forced into the veil, but the some must choose it. Many Islamic countries ignore this but they ignore how Muhammad was against honor culture as well.
