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"media stampedes off the reality cliff"
that certainly sums up western media in times of Washington collaboration
Yesterday I was in the car listening to NPR and they signed off their Ukraine story with a woman sobbing in broken English about how she was ready to pick up a weapon and fight for her country because who else will save them from the Russians? (Apparently not the Kiev junta since the military appears to be defecting.)
"Only a fool lets somebody else tell him who his enemy is." - A. Shakur
"There is nothing here, no oil, no strategic location. We will recommend to our government not to intervene as the risks are high and all that is here are humans."
- Rwanda, 1994
The dying USA empire will not go quietly into the night. Instead, they will drag us all down to hell with them
wasn't NPR created by the US gov to counter the progressive and independent Pacifica radio network? So not surprising that their coverage of Ukraine is in line with the US policy.
Not 100% sure about the veracity of the info:
The Kiev authorities seem to be planning a bloody provocation in Lugansk on April the 17th.
Right Sector members have been shuttled into both towns. University students and the teaching staff are ordered by the rector (Yukia Timoshenko's colleague Vitaliy Kurilo) and the ministry of education to partake in a mass rally near the buildings occupied by the separatists. If they refuse they are threatened with being ex-matriculated and fired.
At the beginning of the rally the Right Sector members pretending to be part of the student body will infiltrate their ranks and march together with the students and teachers.
As they come to the occupied buildings the Right Sector members will attempt to enter those buildings (which are guarded by the armed separatists) - they will try at any cost to provoke the guards to fire into the crowd. Moreover, snipers hired by the Kiev government will be placed nearby and will start shooting into the crowds.
The aim of this whole action is to stage a bloody event - murder of children and youths - and to shove the blame on the separatists and Russia in order to provoke international reaction and facilitate a military resolution of the conflict!
Sources (in Russian):
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3051219.html
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3052278.html
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00008239891566
Interestingly enough, I just read somwhere that Yatseniuk is now saying that he has info that Russians are planning a provocation with 100-200 dead. Hmm... could it be he is giving away his plans now and trying to pin the blame on others pre-emptively?
No, nothing that nefarious, it was created as part of LBJ's Great Society Programs as the radio counterpart to PBS. It's not uncommon for NPR-run stations to have Pacifica-produced content and vice versa in some localities.
But in general US media especially when it comes to foreign policy is going to closely toe the line the administration(s) is holding, at least in the first few years for the same event (pretty much all the 'respectable' media covered the Iraq War the same way in its first years and began to differ as the war got longer). We'll see the same points parroted when it comes to other events, pretty much all the major media for example have covered events in Venezuela (as well as previous ones, like Hugo Chavez's death) more or less with the same angle of insane crazy dictator with significant bias towards the opposition. As far as NPR is concerned they always bring in journalists and pundits from different places, many of them with sometimes pretty hawkish foreign policy positions.
Fuck the right wingers in Ukraine, fuck the right wing Russian govt and its supporters and fuck the US forces if/when they try to intervene. It's so pointless to even try to decipher "oh which side is screwing people over less and has more people on there side" because it doesn't even matter. In conflicts like these there's never a benevolent winner and every prominent side sucks and there's no point to taking an official stance on these wars between two right wing forces like it actually matters (cough cough communist parties everywhere cough cough) - so fuck it, I hope all the civilians live and all the assholes die. That'll never happen, but that is my "official" position and it's just as relevant as anyone else on the left choosing sides in these matters.
FKA Chomsssssssky, Skwisgaar, The Employer Destroyer, skybutton
More and more info about the very likely upcoming bloodbath on the 17th in both Donetsk and Lugansk. Right Sector are basically openly saying now that there will be shootings, that people will die (they predict most victims will most likely be women and children) - only they are ascribing the provocation to a supposed planned operation by Russian agents.
The person collecting this info cites as some of his sources officers in the SBU who know what is planned but wish to prevent the tragedy.
(again for those who understand the language the sources are in Russian):
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3052750.html
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3052843.html
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3053107.html
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3053444.html
http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3053854.html
Let's hope the predictions are wrong.
Yeah, ok, nice dodge. There are some very basic material reasons why people in the east are siding with Russia. For instance:
Russian Military Pay Scale 2013 Edition
Monthly pay rate of a contract (volunteer) serviceman is computed by adding monthly pay rate based on posting, monthly pay rate based on rank and bonuses.
Monthly pay rate of a conscript serviceman is computed by adding monthly pay rate based on posting and bonuses.
Monthly pay rate based on posting (min-max, depending on tariff bracket):
- Rifleman: RUB 10,000-12,500 ($350-450)
- Detachment commander: RUB 14,500-15,000 ($520-540)
- Platoon commander: RUB 20,000-20,500 ($720-730)
- Battalion commander: RUB 24,000-24,500 ($860-880)
- Brigade commander: RUB 29,000 ($1,040)
- Army commander: RUB 37,000 ($1,320)
- Deputy minister of defense: RUB 44,000 ($1,570)
Monthly pay rate based on rank:
- Private: RUB 5,000 ($180)
- Sergeant: RUB 6,500 ($230)
- Lieutenant: RUB 10,000 ($360)
- Major: RUB 11,500 ($410)
- Colonel: RUB 13,000 ($470)
- Lt.-General: RUB 17,000 ($610)
- Col.-General: RUB 20,000 ($720)
Extra bonuses:
- Monthly bonus for seniority: 2-5 years - 10%, 5-10 years - 15%, 10-15 years - 20%, 15-20 years - 25%, 20-25 years - 30%, 25 years and more - 40%
- Monthly bonus for class qualification: 3rd class - 5%, 2nd class - 10%, 1st class - 20%, master class - 30%
- Monthly bonus for working with classified materials: "Critical importance" - 25%, "Top Secret" - 20%, "Secret" - 10%
- Monthly bonus for special conditions of service: 100% of monthly pay rate
- Monthly bonus for peacetime service connected with risk to life and health: 100% of monthly pay rate
- Monthly bonus for special service merit: 100% of monthly pay rate
- Bonus for effective discharge of duty: Up to 3 monthly pay rates a year
- Annual material support: No less that one monthly pay rate
Thus, for example:
- Company commander with a rank of Captain, 10 years of service, 1st class qualification and access to classified materials could potentially receive RUB 83,820 ($2,990) per month.
- Platoon commander with a rank of Lieutenant, 5 years of service, 3rd class qualification and access to classified materials could potentially receive RUB 56,000 ($2,000) per month.
- Rifleman private with 2 years of service and 2nd class qualification could potentially receive RUB 40,645 ($1,450) per month
http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1397083413
http://www.wbur.org/npr/303646309/in-ukraine-reports-of-soldiers-switching-to-pro-russia-side
well yipee for the marginally better capitalists - I'm sure anything that "people" are behind must be good, I'll vote for the democrats while I'm at it because yay popular support.
FKA Chomsssssssky, Skwisgaar, The Employer Destroyer, skybutton
Also, do you think you are accomplishing anything by taking some official position in a geopolitical conflict like this?
FKA Chomsssssssky, Skwisgaar, The Employer Destroyer, skybutton
This sums up the beginning of the 21st century eh?
One side has food and water. The other one doesn't.
See, some people live in the real world, unlike most western leftists. Until the left can offer something that can benefit the working class in even the most "marginal" way, the masses are going to continue to flock to the "marginally better capitalists," despite all the A-rank finger wagging and eye rolling you can muster. Fact's a fact.
Why are you a moderator on a communist forum, Khad?
“All that a well-organized secret society can do is, first, to assist in the birth of the revolution by spreading among the masses ideas corresponding to their instincts, and to organize, not the army of the revolution—the army must always be the people [—] but a revolutionary General Staff composed of devoted, energetic, intelligent and above all sincere friends of the people, who are not ambitious or vain, and who are capable of serving as intermediaries between the revolutionary idea and the popular instincts.” - Bakunin the Leninist
Objective analysis is taboo now?
See, that's the difference between Marx and the lot fronting wannabes that infest the western left these days. Marx actually took an interest in the material factors involved in events of his day, instead of retreating to the comfort blanket of convenient slogans.
Has anyone talked about the politics of the IMF and Russian financial policy? Or of logistics and industrial development in Ukraine? Unless you learn to speak in real-world terms, don't blame me when real people tune out your drivel.
Marx to Engels, 27 May 1862:
#BanMarxForLesserEvilismAndFinanceTalk
Ukraine just raised 9 million dollars for its starving military with fundraising drive. Problem is, the annual budget is in the order of 5.3 billion. If you were a soldier, how much confidence would you have going to war with these kinds of people at your back?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...raising-drive/
Wow, 14 radios. Maybe they will deliver 15 rifle straps next. And then 16 MREs.
I think it's obvious that the Ukrainian state is materially decrepit and cannot pay good pensions or pay its soldiers. It doesn't change the fact that things like Western toleration for homosexuality and other "liberal" ideas are cited by pro-Russian protesters as justifications to fight for "independence". So I don't think those pro-Russian activists are quite comparable to Union soldiers if we are drawing some kind of analogy for when to support a "lesser evil".
Socialist Party of Outer Space
Conditions will be better under Russia, sure. However, Russia is a right wing entity still and shouldn't be supported - if anything, why not support the workers rights to determine their own course rather than having capitalist entities determine it for them? Is it because you don't view this as "practical" meaning that it wouldn't lead to anything? Because if that's the case, that's a funny position to take given that your verbal support for Russia in this conflict already doesn't mean shit. The only difference between the two is that you're lending verbal support to a right wing government. Either way, you're not having an impact and are wasting your time.
FKA Chomsssssssky, Skwisgaar, The Employer Destroyer, skybutton