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    Is there any actual evidence for this (and by evidence, I don't mean anecdotes from people who are psychologically dependent on smoking weed, because I've certainly heard plenty of those)? Because it seems really, really counterintuitive to me...
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    I think drugs are illegal primarily because drugs make people happy without lots of material possessions. They undermine the capitalist system.
    i'm sure the Zapatista rebellion will be complete if they would just only make drugs legal.
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    Back in 2006 the British govt released a command paper (CM 6941). They stated that "the distinction between legal and illegal substances is not unequivocallly based on pharmocology, economic or risk-benefit analysis but is in large part based on historic and cultural precedents".
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    Yeah, I've read quite a bit about this (particularly in relation to psilocybin). Your comment that I quoted was in relation to weed, though, not hallucinogens.
    Thanks, I'll read this when I get home from work.

    As a side note, some of the "medical marijuana" dispensaries around here advertise certain strains as being particularly good for ADHD, which - as someone with ADHD (although I'm pretty ambivalent about whether or not ADHD is even really a thing/'medical condition') - is seriously some of the funniest/most ridiculous shit I have ever heard in my life.
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    Yeah, I've read quite a bit about this (particularly in relation to psilocybin). Your comment that I quoted was in relation to weed, though, not hallucinogens.
    Marijuana is also included under the psychedelic therapy umbrella.
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    I hate this argument about the supposed medical benefits of X or Y drug, as if any of you even care on either side of the fence. Drugs are drugs, all of them have some medical benefit and associated drawbacks. You never get something for nothing with drugs. But I sure as hell don't want some fuck with a hammer and sickle kicking my ass and taking my drugs because he "cares" about me. Yeah man, throw me in jail because all of those evil bad drugs are gonna ruin my life! Drugs are fun as shit and will be fun as shit no matter who owns what or who is all scared of opening their mind a little bit. "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!"
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    As a side note, some of the "medical marijuana" dispensaries around here advertise certain strains as being particularly good for ADHD, which - as someone with ADHD (although I'm pretty ambivalent about whether or not ADHD is even really a thing/'medical condition') - is seriously some of the funniest/most ridiculous shit I have ever heard in my life.
    I'm not sure, Strix. As a computer programmer I find that MJ really helps my concentration and creativity. Especially creativity and design. Talk to me about OOP when I'm high

    But then again I'm not diagnosed with ADHD nor, as you said, am I convinced that it's a real condition since I've seen it obviously misdiagnosed in people. I would assume that it's at least over-diagnosed.

    I've used some ADHD drugs recreationally and they seem to have a similar "work is the most interesting thing ever" effect (Dexedrin). MJ makes things more interesting, too. If it happens to be video games, it's video games, but that's still your choice to make. I'm sure Dexedrin would make video games interesting, too. Nobody smokes MJ and then sits down with Python except me That doesn't mean it doesn't make it more interesting.... I understand YMMV.

    By the way, the most difficult to quit drug I've ever used is tobacco. They discovered it has an MAOI, and I've been using it since I was 18. So, weed's got nothing on tobacco in terms of loss of motivation and activity.
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    I think the greatest risk comes from taking shit like acid though (besides opiates). There's a small chance you'll get HPPD and honestly it's just not worth it. there's no coming back from that. A friend of mine got HPPD from it and she can't smoke weed or anything like forever because it reinduces the trip (which was really bad) and makes her condition a lot worse. I'd say psychedelics ruin marijuana highs. People always rationalize their trips spiritually or even pseudo philosophically and so on but they're really just fucked in the head.
    Really? Because out of every psychedelic user i know maybe 2 have HPPD. I myself have used LSD, shrooms as well as the less traditional psychs such as MDA and MDMA as well as the dissociatives Ketamine, Nitrous oxide, Dextromethorphan and PCP all to no i'll effect. As with anything it's about how often you use and also some luck. If i took E everyday like some people i know no doubt my memory would be totally fucked for sure but occasional use of these drugs are fairly harmless.

    As for opiates again occasional use won't hurt you. The problem of course with opiates is that it's all to easy for it to become everyday use. Personally i found alcohol and Cocaine to be the worst in terms of effects on the mind and body. I literally have 2 years of my life i barely remember because of those 2 drugs.

    At the end of the day it's my choice and noone else's what i take.

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