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Anyway it is absolutely hypocritical to hail maidan as a genuine people's protest (even if we ignore all the evidence of a well planned CIA operation attesting to the contrary) and at the same time deride the anti-maidan resistance as some nefarious Kremlin plot.
Double standards much!
Is this in reference to anyone on revleft, if so, any sources?
Sources?
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I've been busy on my end and have admittedly not kept a close eye on events in Ukraine- what is going on now? The media is spazzing out over a demonstration in Donetsk and the mayor in Kharkiv getting shot.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...now-leading-it
“I think what is happening now shows us who really was mastering the process from the beginning. But in the beginning, the United States preferred to remain in the shadow,” Putin said
Washington's approach to the events in Ukraine is not fueled by concerns about the fate of the crisis-torn state, but rather by the desire to prove it is still running the show worldwide, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
The US is trying to shape public opinion in a specific manner “because they are not concerned by the fate of Ukraine in the first place, but have strong desire to prove that it’s them who decides how things should be – always and everywhere,” Lavrov stated.
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The only slaves who are happy, are the crazy ones.
Some good sources of information:
http://interpretermag.com/
http://www.kyivpost.com/
Information can be trusted most of the time; at worst, it may be unconfirmed. Commentary is usually biased, but comentary usually is.
Avoid any Russian media like plague. According to them, there are already concentration camps for Russians all over Ukraine. (Maybe that's why Gazprom increased the price of gas.)
^Those two sources are just as bad as Russian media. Are you a Euromaidan supporter?
#FF0000, cyu, La Guaneña, Lensky, Mather
I guess the Eastern Ukrainian "self-defence" forces brought down two Ukrainian helicopters; according to some members of the Eastern defence forces, the helicopters were shooting the common high caliber guns on military helicopters.
Of course, I have no way of verifying the helicopters firing on Sloviansk, but the video of one of these helicopters being brought down is circulating on Western, independent, and Russian media.
I'd like to say three things if the Ukrainian government heightened the stakes with firing bullets from airborne vehicles:
First, if they were firing on the ground, the successful maneuver to shoot the helicopter down shows how well trained these "self-defence" forces are.
Second, I'm not shedding any tears if this chopper was laying down fire in a civilian location like Sloviansk and got abruptly taken to the ground. I'm surprised the defence forces even took prisoners, like the pilot that survived getting shot down. Please, no one take this as some advocation of such a practice.
Third, militarily, the Ukrainians are escalating the conflict, as well. Soon, just as the defence forces got their arms by confiscation and directly from Russia, they will seize Ukrainian military aircraft or be given a few old Russian gunships or jet fighters.
Some 40-50 people were killed during a fire at the House of Trade Unions in Odessa
And Miners apparently have nearly a million small arms stored away in the mines in the Donbass region.
Also, when the fascists started raiding military bases earlier this year, there was a report that some high-end rocket launchers went missing from some places, so I think it would be safe to assume that perhaps some of the militias in the East have anti-aircraft launchers.
Helicopter in Slavyansk
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
Nothing is as bad as Russian media. Those two sources will at least get some information through and won't make complete fabrications like when RT published that Right Sector is storming Russian homes in Crimea and harrassing the families.
Yes, I am. Is that a problem?
Fuck off and to hell with Maidan. (SERIOUS TRIGGER WARNING)
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
yeah it is, 1. you support the EU with that, wich is bad enough, 2. you are in league with fascists, 3. you are in league with billionairs, 4. you take a side in a imperialist battle of influence and markets in wich the working class of the ukraine only can loose.
depends on where you live, i dont have to expirience russian media. the media here is so pro the kiev regime that it downplays the right sector and svoboda as right wing populists and writes that everything bad in the ukraine is because of putin and everybody who doesnt see it that way is a supporter of putin.
All i want is a Marxist Hunk.
It is true that labor produces for the rich wonderful things – but for the worker it produces privation. It produces palaces – but for the worker, hovels. It produces beauty – but for the worker, deformity. It replaces labor by machines, but it throws one section of the workers back into barbarous types of labor and it turns the other section into a machine. It produces intelligence – but for the worker, stupidity, cretinism.
Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten!
The country is in turmoil. Many deaths for months now. Start crying now, when the other side starts seriously dying, too? I call it hypocrisy.Fuck off and to hell with Maidan. (SERIOUS TRIGGER WARNING)
Hypocrisy? I never supported Maidan because it was full of fucking fascists doing all the fighting and getting the biggest rewards, namely their own legitimate military wing.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
No, it isn't.
There are fascists on both sides. Many more on the Russian side.
Yeah, but they seem to keep forgetting to drop me a bundle or two. Cheap bastards.
I'm taking side in the February revolution. Yes, unlikely that we'll see the October one, but one doesn't go without the other in a country of feudal oligarchs.
Actually, I base my assumptions on messages from my friends in the street, who have nothing to do with the Right Sector, the government, police, army or any of the "billionaires". I trust what they tell me and take everything I read in any public media with a grain of salt.
Ah, so a person is a hypocrite if he supports Maidan? Ok, good to know. Plenty of hypocrites in Kiev these days, then. I thought the word means something else. Never too late to learn something new, I guess.
When did I declare you a hypocrite?
Also, just because some Maidan liberals or anarchists say one thing doesnt mean that Maidan didnt allow for fascists to be brought to power, and oligarchs from across the country flocked to their side.
And no, I wasn't cheering on Berkut and people flying tricolor flags just because groups like Antiimperialistische Aktion did, or because one of them had a red flag, or because they were singing the sacred war.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
It used to be that imperial powers would send in their own troops to secure their empire, but now it looks like they're hiring the locals to do their dying for them instead. Right after which, I assume they'll then be sent to the gulag-without-walls that is usually known as pro-capitalist austerity.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...st-or-no-money
•IF UKRAINE GOVERNMENT LOSES EFFECTIVE CONTROL OVER EAST OF COUNTRY, $17 BLN IMF BAILOUT WOULD NEED TO BE REDESIGNED
Which, roughly translated, appears to mean go to war with pro-Russian forces or you don't get your money!
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The only slaves who are happy, are the crazy ones.
What are the politics of the trade unions and miners?
Brospierre-Albanian baseball was played with a frozen ball of shit and tree branch
"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of the Soviet Union."
Henry L. Stimson: U.S. Secretary of War
Take the word “fear” and the phrase “for what, it’s not going to change anything” out of your minds and take control of your future.
[I]Juan Jose Fernandez, Asturias
"I want to give a really bad party. I mean it. I want to give a party where there's a brawl and seductions and people going home with their feelings hurt and women passed out in the cabinet de toilette. You wait and see"
From what I've gathered on the miners at least is they are more for a more autonomous Donetsk region in general. The tricolor flag with the black stripe is from the short lived krivoy rog republic during the Russian civil war.
To be honest, I haven't read statements made by the unions but it would be safe to assume that at the very least, they want constitutional reforms and more regional autonomy. There's also news about 'peoples governors' in slavyansk and kramatovsk (sp?) And apparently some 'nationalizations in the Donetsk/donbass area.
FKA Vacant
"snook up behind him and took his koran, he said sumthin about burnin the koran. i was like DUDE YOU HAVE NO KORAN and ran off." - Jacob Isom, Amarillo Resident.
