Except every time its ever been tried of course. But apart from that the theory's fine.
Oh, no, wait, it's rubbish. National self-determination is a capitulation to liberal ideology and a trap for the working class.
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Except national self-determination isn't nationalism.
Nationalism is a bourgeois ideology that tries to swindle the proletariat into thinking their interests are the same as those of "their" bourgeoisie. It is, of course, incorrect. Yet national oppression does exist - from the oppression of Russians in the glorious new Baltic democracies to the oppression of the Palestinians in Israel. By raising the slogan of self-determination - where it is applicable - communists neutralize nationalist attempts to divide the workers, and fight against chauvinism by the dominant nationality.
Except every time its ever been tried of course. But apart from that the theory's fine.
Oh, no, wait, it's rubbish. National self-determination is a capitulation to liberal ideology and a trap for the working class.
Critique of the Gotha Programme, Pt IV: http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm
No War but the Class War
Destroy All Nations
Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC): "A man whose life has been dishonorable is not entitled to escape disgrace in death."
And yet you view the Polish bourgeois state in the 20s as sacrosanct and the Soviet attempt to dismantle it as a sacrilege.
I would support it in some cases like in a country where there was strong support for a communist revolution. But I wouldn't support it if a workers army invaded a country that there was no support for a communist revolution.
"Of all the politicians and political people with whom I have had conversations, and whom I have had conversations, and who called themselves followers of Connolly, he was the only one who truly understood what James Connolly meant when he spoke of his vision of the freedom of the Irish people."
- Nora Connolly, daughter of James Connolly, speaking of Seamus Costello shortly after his assassination
Why not, do you judge due process to be more important than the outcome?
Don't know where you got that shit from, but if you take it back you might be able to get a refund.
I regard the Polish state as a dangerous and stupid mistake. That's hardly 'sacrosanct. But if you 'accidently' on-purpose set a bomb ticking, the smart move isn't to start battering with hammers.
'You don't want to hammer bombs/stick pins in tigers/wrestle a giant squid? You think these things are sacrosanct!'
No not really. Just not stupid enough to shake a wasp's nest then put my head in it to see what's happening.
Critique of the Gotha Programme, Pt IV: http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch04.htm
No War but the Class War
Destroy All Nations
Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC): "A man whose life has been dishonorable is not entitled to escape disgrace in death."
No, the solution is obviously to douse your face in petrol, light it on fire and start battering the bomb with your burning face.
Unfortunately, we only have your word for that being what the Bolsheviks were doing. One could conversely see their actions as diffusing the bomb. Or to put it in real word terms (you seem be infatuated with using metaphors) they were trying to salvage the situation once they felt to be up to the task.
Or do you pledge allegiance to the principle of no second chances.
Yeah, that's the way I might support it too. If there was a big working class movement repressed by a dictatorship then interventionism seems like an acceptable idea. I do worry though that the side-effects could make matters worse. Like in the Kosovo War or Iraq; you solve one problem whilst creating others.
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