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    Venezuela - President Maduro issues arrest warrant for opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMSprFC9ly0


    Venezuela - anti-government protest leader arrested on charges of murder and terrorism

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SenPxp5vAgA


    More anti government protests in Caracas

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJrQDxrPTfo


    Caracas chaos video - Gunfire, clashes as 3 dead in violent Venezuela protests

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFPkt0AuSFA
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    Let's say who is this Leopoldo Lopez without watching on YT. He's a man employed by US government proxies to restore classic capitalism in Venezuela.
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    Oh no Maduro is being anti-democratic again!
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    The executive can issue arrest warrants in Venezuela?
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    Waste of time unless this is step two:
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    Waste of time unless this is step two:
    Ordering his arrest was already a bad move for him, this is only gonna anger the public more. If he executes him, like it appears you are suggesting, that's gonna set off a riot! Then the opposition will take advantage of that, stage a coup, and send Venezuela into an economic crisis similar to that seen in Eastern-Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union.

    The opposition are mostly a bunch of self proclaimed social democrats who want to give privilege back to the bourgeoisie.

    I recognize that the government of Venezuela has been taking authoritarian measures against their opposition for a while, but now they have no choice. So the bourgeois is capitalizing off of this to rally support, as well as the increasing crime in Venezuela. I can't help but think the US might be playing a bigger part in this than we think. Also with all the corruption in Venezuela, they (the bourgeoisie) might be paying off police to cause discontent.
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    Waste of time unless this is step two:
    Idiot. You say you're not a Stalinist, but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
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    I did a bit of digging on the internet (can't watch Youtube videos at the moment) and found that students are mainly protesting because two other students were killed during other protests. However, what I'm more interested in is why the students are protesting in the first place? What do they want from the government?
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    I did a bit of digging on the internet (can't watch Youtube videos at the moment) and found that students are mainly protesting because two other students were killed during other protests. However, what I'm more interested in is why the students are protesting in the first place? What do they want from the government?
    I don't think that the Venezuelan economy is doing so good. It's probably related to that.
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    While I do agree that the executive issuing warrants is a dangerous precedent*, I cannot help but be very skeptical towards the hospital-burning-cuban-doctors-bashing opposition.

    After last presidential elections we all saw what those "democrats" tried to do.

    *If that's truly what happened.
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    I did a bit of digging on the internet (can't watch Youtube videos at the moment)

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    This is such a bad move. There is no way he will win the next election in 2019 now. He needs to nationalize, right now because the problems are caused by the private sector and it existing.
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    Waste of time unless this is step two:
    Now, I want to see Lopez pay for his conspiracy of attempting to dis-rail Venezuela's road to socialism but please this makes you look sociopathic.
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    Now, I want to see Lopez pay for his conspiracy of attempting to dis-rail Venezuela's road to socialism but please this makes you look sociopathic.
    Do you genuinely think Venezuela is on the road to socialism? That socialism can be built by the decrees of an admittedly bourgeois government? That is completely incompatible with Leninism.

    This is a struggle between two bourgeois factions - although one faction might appear to be "anti-imperialist", their "anti-imperialism" will soon disintegrate in face of economic pressure.
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    Venezuela's Maduro calls for peace violent protests persist

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FDE7Rp7SJU


    Venezuelan authorities free dozens of student protesters as clashes with security forces continue

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6fEr65Ei3M
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    Idiot. You say you're not a Stalinist, but if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
    To be fair I'm pretty sure most tendencies are pretty okay with killing reactionary leaders/ bourgeois representatives. Unless you mean to say that this is because Maduro is himself a bourgeois head of state.
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    I don't think that the Venezuelan economy is doing so good. It's probably related to that.
    Ehh among latin american economics I would say that its not under performing. Even compared to other "leftist" nations like Bolivia and Ecuador. There hasn't been a steep drop off either recently.
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    It's a problem with inflation.


    Venezuela has came along ways since the late 90's with poverty, unemployment, healthcare, education, housing, etc, but inflation has always been a huge problem.


    I think the lesson here is this: no half measures. If you're going to start expropriating private businesses and nationalizing them, don't stop with this company and that company and this one, as this is only going to force the bourgeois into a siege mentality where they will fight back with everything they have, be it price gouging thus inflation or funding right wing forces, both things that are happening and have been happening within the country.


    Now we have a dual economy, half black-market goods peddled to people below state price controls, and of course the state economy.

    Does Maduro have the guts to step up nationalization and crack down on the increasingly well-together right and bourgeois direct action, or will he fidget and end up handing over the keys to someone like Capriles? Time will tell I suppose.


    Civil unrest like this is never monolithic, however, so it's wrong to look at this as merely "right wingers funded by the private sector", though no doubt they're probably the most prominent voice on the scene. There are legitimate complaints to be had with the Maduro government, hopefully they don't get lose in the frucus.
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    I've seen some images of pretty brutal repression by the police against student demonstrators. Although given the source, it's hard for me to take it seriously.

    This video is fairly choppy in terms of it's message and production, but if these are images from the past few days, this government won't last.

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    Tensions rise in Venezuela as pro and anti-government activists take to streets of Caracas

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpn1G9nSxv4


    Demonstrators clash with riot police in Caracas

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-xokmprtnI

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