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    Default My English teach is knowingly misinterpreting Animal Farm to the class

    He was claiming that Animal Farm is about how communism could never work and equating it with Cuba, China and the former USSR. I debunked him and explained how it was a criticism of the USSR's corruption and how Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War and was not anti-soviet not anti communist. So them he basically told me to stop confusing people with the facts. This is disappointing considering that up to this point he has been pretty unbiased compared to most teachers.

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    Keep calling his/her bullshit.
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    Next class bring in literature explaining how Orwell was in POUM and was a communist himself who was just anti-Stalinist. Before the bell rings and he starts talking to the class, go up to the front and explain it to everybody, and cite specific valid sources and places where students can confirm that. Something to that effect should work nicely, and should also really piss him off
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    Oh god please do this and tell us how the teacher reacted

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    Next class bring in literature explaining how Orwell was in POUM and was a communist himself who was just anti-Stalinist.
    Yeah.

    Before the bell rings and he starts talking to the class, go up to the front and explain it to everybody, and cite specific valid sources and places where students can confirm that. Something to that effect should work nicely, and should also really piss him off
    NO! Most students don't actually care and therefore this'll be embarrassing. Don't ever preach politics.
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    Oh god please do this and tell us how the teacher reacted
    Not just tell, film it
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    He was claiming that Animal Farm is about how communism could never work and equating it with Cuba, China and the former USSR. I debunked him and explained how it was a criticism of the USSR's corruption and how Orwell fought in the Spanish Civil War and was not anti-soviet not anti communist. So them he basically told me to stop confusing people with the facts. This is disappointing considering that up to this point he has been pretty unbiased compared to most teachers.
    I went through this in tenth grade with a teacher who was using it to justify his racism, islamophobia, and use it as an anticommunist book. I debated with the class about presenting the facts I knew and he just made my grade suffer and I got called retard. He used the Cyrillic letters CCCP, English letters because Slavs are apparently too dumb to make acronyms. I hated that fucking man.
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    NO! Most students don't actually care and therefore this'll be embarrassing. Don't ever preach politics.
    You can fucking say that again haha!!!
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    Put a dunce cap on him and march him on a rope through the halls. Hand out water balloons filled with piss to fellow class mates - encourage them to throw them at him. Call it Cultural Revolution.
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    I would honestly continue to fight him on it. That isn't just shitty politics, it's bad literary interpretation; if you're claiming that things in the story mean other things outside of it and then deny the context in which it is written in, you're doing it wrong.

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    Put a dunce cap on him and march him on a rope through the halls. Hand out water balloons filled with piss to fellow class mates - encourage them to throw them at him. Call it Cultural Revolution.
    I see what you're saying, but I don't think that's something that should be encouraged. Its cruel punishment for someone being an idiot. I've had shitty stuff like that threatened to me for being openly communist and being atheist in high school. That and it'd be alienating to people who would other wise lean left
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    Next class bring in literature explaining how Orwell was in POUM and was a communist himself who was just anti-Stalinist. Before the bell rings and he starts talking to the class, go up to the front and explain it to everybody, and cite specific valid sources and places where students can confirm that. Something to that effect should work nicely, and should also really piss him off
    Damn, school has really changed a lot in the last 10 years. You'd have got your head kicked in at my school for doing that.

    Teachers are just normal people like everyone else. Just have a private word with him and explain your grievances to him. Maybe you can present him with some literature or quotes and stuff. But do it privately rather than embarrassing yourself while trying embarrass him. That ain't gonna work. Treat your teacher with respect and they're more likely to return the gesture. What is interesting about his reaction though, is that if you are going to be tested on this then he may have been supplying you with the correct answers to the test. Rather than being personally ideologically biased. Just ask him honestly.
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    Your English teacher is a fucking moron.


    Don't surprise me, I had plenty of moronic teachers too, including one that thought Hitler and Stalin were allies


    BTW take a look at Cuba's socialism. Appears to have worked out for them. They have the highest standard of living in all of Latin America, lowest crime rate, and best health care. How come you don't see that in 'Murica where it's the "land of the free"?
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    Put a dunce cap on him and march him on a rope through the halls. Hand out water balloons filled with piss to fellow class mates - encourage them to throw them at him. Call it Cultural Revolution.
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    George Orwell isn't even that great of a writer as high as the pedestal he's put on.

    I know some of you won't like me saying that, but he's looked upon as this prophet for 1984, and I get so sick of hearing about this shit. Libertariantards use 1984 to make examples of Communism even though they can't see the contradiction in themselves cause capitalism is where it can also occur.

    Why does Orwell get all the praise, but Marx is the one we're supposed to be afraid of, even though shit like Class Warfare is more realistic than some idiot screaming how 'da gubahmen is listenin' yo!'

    Orwell may have stuck with Communist/Leftist publishers but that don't mean he was on the left side by any means.

    If anything he's an imperialist apologist. I found this a lot in his work. Just look at how he describes Catholics with pure hatred, or better yet is it a coincidence he wrote mean things about the Irish and even named the main villain in 1984 O'Brien?

    Sure he might be an OK writer, but he had his flaws just as much as any other man and that's all I am pointing out. I don't care if you like him or not.
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    Yo, I'm gonna knee cap the next person that tries to covertly put 'tard' in to Libertarian or Liberal.

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    I see what you're saying, but I don't think that's something that should be encouraged. Its cruel punishment for someone being an idiot. I've had shitty stuff like that threatened to me for being openly communist and being atheist in high school. That and it'd be alienating to people who would other wise lean left
    Its just a joke.
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    Yo, I'm gonna knee cap the next person that tries to covertly put 'tard' in to Libertarian or Liberal.

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    I reported it. I hate that so much.

    Its just a joke.
    I know I was just adding on to it, my apologies.
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    NO! Most students don't actually care and therefore this'll be embarrassing. Don't ever preach politics.
    They might not care but at least they'll be less likely to believe the wrong thing.
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    Damn, school has really changed a lot in the last 10 years. You'd have got your head kicked in at my school for doing that.
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