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    Default Scientific Proof Thoughts & Intentions Can Alter The Physical World Around Us

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    Dr. Masaru Emoto, a researcher and alternative healer from Japan has given the world a good deal of evidence of the magic of positive thinking. He became famous when his water molecule experiments featured in the 2004 film, What The Bleep Do We Know? His experiments demonstrate that human thoughts and intentions can alter physical reality, such as the molecular structure of water. Given that humans are comprised of at least 60% water, his discovery has far reaching implications… can anyone really afford to have negative thoughts or intentions?
    The rice experiment is another famous Emoto demonstration of the power of negative thinking (and conversely, the power of positive thinking.) Dr Emoto placed portions of cooked rice into two containers. On one container he wrote “thank you” and on the other “you fool”. He then instructed school children to say the labels on the jars out loud everyday when they passed them by. After 30 days, the rice in the container with positive thoughts had barely changed, while the other was moldy and rotten.



    Not sure I can buy this, but it is quite interesting.
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    Er... the fact that I am typing this is evidence that intentions and thoughts can "affect the world around us". But if you're looking for evidence of magic, this Emoto person is not a researcher; he has a degree in international relations, but that's about it, and he doesn't publish in peer-reviewed scientific journals.
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    yea let's imagine private property away
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    How widely have these results been reproduced? Are my negative thought-waves hindering their acceptance by mainstream science?
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    Real trusty source on that shit, too. Fucking idiot quacks.
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    Ehh, fair enough.
    I've never heard of the researcher or site before, just something I saw scrolling though.
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    Can we ban this bullshit? If people have an objection then they can just think really hard about it and maybe they can change our minds.
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    I first encountered this line of "research" in 2006 with the water, and the same doctor. It's amusing how widely circulated in certain circles are these extremely isolated "studies" with no signs of replication, and how they live on for years. I once moved in a circle that promoted this quack, and also loved using quantum physics to legitimise fallacies (because, obviously, anything that is possible for a sub-atomic particle must be possible for a human being!; e.g., passing through walls and such magick tricks).
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    I think it's enough that we can point out that Emoto's results haven't been reliably replicated, and dismiss it thusly.

    Sure, this kind of pseudoscientific New Age bullshit is annoying as fuck, but censorship is not the same thing as refutation.
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    I'm just glad our friend DSTC is rightly incredulous and open to our sinister materialist swaying.
    Someone who earnestly promoted this sort of stuff would not be easily distinguished from a troll, so...


    edit: I dunno how to strikethrough text so I put my erroneous statement in spoiler tags. I just remembered we have some legit. members who hold to some of these wacky ideas. It's not against the rules! Sadly...
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    Next we'll be getting articles about energized water.
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    Not sure I can buy this, but it is quite interesting.
    It is interesting, but it's a one-off and hence not as interesting as experiments that show that trained meditators can collapse quantum interference patterns by mentally observing the double-slit from another location, for example. There's a lot of good scientific work that's been done that's pretty much confirmed some forms of mind-matter interactions as well as a limited form of precognition/presentiment.

    If you're interested, good overviews and discussions of the science can be found in the Google TechTalks by Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake.

    Don't fall for the mistake of thinking that this type of thing is incompatible with materialism or somehow "supernatural." If it exists, then it is not supernatural and can be described by physics eventually.
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    Don't.

    but it is quite interesting.
    It really isn't.

    I also saw the words "positive thinking" in that article. Positive thinking is the quack psychology equivalent of right-wingers and libertarians telling poor people to pull themselves up from their own bootstraps and that if they are poor, then it is their own fault. It attempts to fool people into thinking that there are no societal or structural causes for their predicament and that they alone have the power to change their own situation.

    Positive thinking has been heavily promoted in the US (and now seems to be seeping into Europe) by many employers for obvious reasons.
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    I do personally believe that our thoughts and intentions can alter the physical world around us, but that is my belief in the paranormal/supernatural, I will only elaborate via PM on this, not here.
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    Someone’s been to crazy town!
    Is that directed at me?
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    Is that directed at me?
    No, the man/woman who made the video.
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    Breaking news: magic isn't real.
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    No, the man/woman who made the video.
    Ahhhh alright, I was gonna say its not the first time I've been called crazy for the things that I believe haha
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    Ahhhh alright, I was gonna say its not the first time I've been called crazy for the things that I believe haha
    It is just that it is obvious to viewers that they could have switched the rice when the cameras were off.
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