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    But, I am not in place to talk for Marxism-Leninism, because one, I am no where qualified, and two, I am not sure if ML is truley my ideology, because i believe socialism in a state is possible, but communism must be world-wide.
    This is precisely what Marxism-Leninism teaches.
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    Glad I am a on the right way then.

    After I looked more into left Communism, it seems more of a thought out form of an arch of communism, which I cannot adhere to. But it seems they still believe in the DOTP, considering it a "council."

    What separates the DoTP for ML from th LC concept of the DoTP?
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    Firstly, different constituents of the Communist Left have a different conception of the role of party and state in the period after the immediate seizure of power. So what I'm going to say applies to Left Communists other than Bordigists. I'm sure that some supporters of Bordiga will be along to put a different view.

    We don't 'consider the DotP a council'. We think that the workers' councils are the form of the DotP, the vehicle the working class uses to implement its revolutionary dictatorship. The workers councils smash the state apparatus and administer society through the revolutionary transition.

    MLs on the other hand believe in the dictatorship of the party, not the dictatorship of the working class. The do this with some handwavium about the party representing the working class. Left Comms regard this as substitutionism (substituting party rule for class rule). As this party rule is constututed in a state (ie the task of the party - not the working class - is to take control of the state - not destroy the state) MLs are aiming to be in a position of the management of national capitalism, not in establishing the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.
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    There is no such thing as Stalinism, it's a term used to slander Marxist-Leninists. If you think that all there is to Marxist-Leninism is "Socialism in One Country" (You also misunderstand what the term means), you are dead wrong.



    Not that I'm defending Marxist-Leninism. While I admire many of the advancements made by Marxist-Leninist states and the national liberation struggles they inspired which dealt some devastating blows to western imperialism, I am not a marxist-leninist.


    As for myself, I guess I could be labeled a council-communist, or left-communist, or anarchist, with insurrectionist and post-left sympathies (I never fully understood the difference between the three). I draw most of my inspiration from Kropotkin, Bakunin, Stirner, Pannekoek, and Malatesta. I think Marx and Engels goes without saying for anyone on the left.
    I don't think you understand what council-communist, or left-communist, or anarchism are if you think that national liberation is somehow progressive and the fact that you admit you don't understand the differences between the three.

    But to help a little,

    Council Communists - Came out of the Dutch/German Communist Left generally sceptical of organisation forms but see the need for workers councils as the basis of DOTP

    Anarchists - opposed DOTP and party form. Don't believe in the need for a transitional period and totally opposed the idea of a state in any form, though also see workers councils as the basis for a post capitalist society.


    Left Communists (not Bordigists) - see the need for a new form of party, a transitional period between capitalism and communism which is the DOTP based on workers councils.

    What does unite the three is the belief that only the working class can make the revolution.
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    I'm a proud anarcho-communist.

    My interest in anarchism started in high school, but really developed and sharpened in my college years around 10 years ago. I studied all of the different currents and thinkers, from Benjamin Tucker to Leo Tolstoy to Emma Goldman. At the end of the day, I was always attracted to the most radical and anti-authoritarian train of thought: anarchist communism. I remember visiting the local bookstore as a college sophomore, and ordering The Conquest of Bread. Some time later, I ordered What is Anarchism, by Alexander Berkman.

    Though I've never been a Marxist-Leninist, I've definitely been influenced by a number of Marxist authors. While his market-based socialism will be rejected by most here, David Schweickart's After Capitalism is an excellent critique of the capitalist system, perhaps the best I've ever read. Chris Harman's People's History of the World is a unique history book, and Michael Parenti's Democracy for the Few is another quality Marxist book.

    What drew me to anarchism was the uncompromising anti-authoritarianism and unapologetic activism. The vision hooked me as a teen (I was kicked out of a local church for anti-war remarks in the middle of a sermon) and after all these years later, my radicalism has only INCREASED.
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    I have also went back and forth between ideologies; in between Marxist-Leninism and Trotskyism.
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    I'm not sure what tendency I am anymore. Somewhere between a Maoist and Marxist-Leninist and a little bit Trotsky influence as of late
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    Anarchist communist influenced by egoism with an interest in Christian anarchism; wanna fight about it?

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