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Opinions on small business?
I'm a student but I run a small business on the side with my friend, we own two vans which we converted to sell fast food (e.g burgers, hot dogs or fish and chips), these we(well I) use to market our goods at events (paying the organizers commission), usually we will run one, we split the profit however we recently purchased another and we have a Romanian immigrant working for us in the other van, he gets paid below the 'living wage' (though he only works a few hours on sat or sun, he has a job Mon-Friday).
Would you object to this and what/why specifically please. Perhaps you can convince me to change my operations.
The point of communism is not to convince you to "change your operation" - communism is not a church and we are not concerned about the salvation of your soul - but to lead the proletariat in overthrowing all forms of private property and wage labor, including your van business.
Whats so wrong with it? Would you prefer me to sell my vans sit at home and suck my dick?
So you are breaking the current capitalist's laws in order to further exploit your workers?
I'm not breaking any laws
Again, what you do under the capitalist mode of production as an individual is no concern of communists. We "would prefer" that private property be abolished, which includes your van, but is not limited to it.
You stated you pay him below the "living wage", I am to understand that as you paying your worker less then the mandated minimum wage in your country.
I'm asking why, comprehension not your strong point?
No, the Min wage is below the living wage, government subsidizes low paid workers by adding to their pay packet. The living wage is a different proposal.
Why? Because it's in our class interest that your van be expropriated, among other things. Don't expect a sermon. There are conflicting classes in society, and communists are those who take the side of the proletariat against other classes and groups. Greed, as they say, is good. Well, communist proletarians are not satisfied with selflessly working in order to enrich the bourgeoisie and the petite bourgeoisie.
However much I may hate comrade Stalin he had the right idea about how to deal with people like you! Capitalist scum!
P.S. I don't think Stalin was a comrade, I only call him one because I think it sounds funny.
Economic Left/Right: -10 (<- That means I am left wing)
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -9.08 (<- That means I am libertarian
From: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
"If you saw my real picture, you might wet yourself....with laughter, I might add." - Comrade Dodger
You don't get it do you. The dude works not because he has to, he could sit on JSA and survive, but because he wants to make a living for himself, he has aspiration and you are attempting to destroy this aspiration, destroy his source of income,his family's income, you should frankly be ashamed of yourself by making such a contemptible statement. Disgusting
Pay him the full value of his labour and stop exploiting him and I would have no problem!
Economic Left/Right: -10 (<- That means I am left wing
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -9.08 (<- That means I am libertarian
From: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
"If you saw my real picture, you might wet yourself....with laughter, I might add." - Comrade Dodger
That sounds like the "Ricardian socialism" of old - the problem with capitalism isn't that it is unjust, it's that it is unstable and holds back the development of the productive forces.
I think we may have a misunderstanding.
In no way do I think that in a capitalist society the workers will be paid fairly, it goes against the entire point of capitalism and would create even more contradictions not to mention the bourgeois would not be happy because they would lose almost all all of their wealth and all of their power.
Economic Left/Right: -10 (<- That means I am left wing
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -9.08 (<- That means I am libertarian
From: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
"If you saw my real picture, you might wet yourself....with laughter, I might add." - Comrade Dodger
How would you determine his labour value, what would you say selling/cooking burgers should pay for an hours work?
That would mean that that my burger vans would have to be nationalized.
Think about this, take a step back. Are you serious?
Expropriated, not nationalized. In the event of a socialist revolution, you really shouldn't hold your breath hoping for any sort of compensation.
Your burger vans would be publicly owned for the good of society not your wallet!
Economic Left/Right: -10 (<- That means I am left wing
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -9.08 (<- That means I am libertarian
From: http://www.politicalcompass.org/
"If you saw my real picture, you might wet yourself....with laughter, I might add." - Comrade Dodger
I'll be laughing all the way to the bank, your socialist revolution is never going to catch me.
Enjoy your second grade pussy, second grade job, second grade lifestyle, you Marxist degenerate. There won't be any socialist revolution in your lifetime, socialism is near enough dead.
